Help! I have a 6 month old dogue x bloodhound and all the collars that I buy for him seem to rub on his folds of skin causing a rash. I think that the rubbing occurs while he is pulling on the lead during walks, he is being trained at the minute so hopefully it won't continue for much longer, but any help would be appreciated. Does any-one have a similar dog with jowls who doesn't have this problem, could they let me know what type of collar they use. It is not a problem with size as I have bought him a number of sizes and the same thing happens.

I'd like to see a bordeaux x bloodhound could you e-mail me a pic? Please! The only suggestion is maybe use a harness until he is trained to stop pulling.
Bec

Thanks for the suggestion, will try it out. Do not have any pictures of him as I am at work at the mo, will bring some in tomorrow and send to you by email. Have not developed any recent photos of Jake although have some of him aged about 6 weeks to 2 months. Recent ones had to be sent away to be developed (due to daft fiance not realising he had put a black and white film into his camera!!) so I am having to wait 2 weeks to see them myself.

OK, let me start by saying I am totally appalled at somebody breeding this dog, however its not the posters fault (I presume?). What you need is a half check collar made from fairly soft weave nylon. These are basically a flat collar with a small chain insert that allows a certain amount of check-chain action, but doesn't slide off during normal day to day wear. I would also add that your dog shouldn't wear his collar at home as he will be prone to nasty damp bacterial infections in the skin folds where the collar pushed the folds together. Take the collar off & there won't be a problem. Was the bloodhound the sire or the dam?

Sam would the half checks made by Kumfi be better. Instead of the usual chain for the checking mechanism, it has a webbing loop with a ring??? It is called the Kumfi Action collar http://www.kumfi.co.uk/

I have a soft padded half check I got from Batleys. I can't remember who made them but it's the nicest half check I've ever used :)
Lara x

Brainless, I should imagine they would work too, although I have never seen one myself. you at Shepton on Sunday? (changing subject slightly, sorry!)

Patterns?

Am I the only person who finds there are patterns to posts? This has been constantly happening over a number of months now

New person comes with 'push button and stand back' controversial type question

Gets replies of varying irrateness

Replies next day with indignant post about coming on the board for help

Goes away and then a couple of days later new person new post same reaction

hmmm

Lins, I apologise if you are genuine :-)

I don't think that Lins posted an inflammatory post... i think it was a genuine question. People get very offended by strangers, and can read responses in the wrong context - which is what happened here.

JMO of course
Chloe

Sarah - I've seen a few but I presume innocence in all cases. Many people have very different sources of dog education - maybe like bringing up kids.
I reckon my posts are probably irritatingly novice-like but they are all genuine and stem from my love for and curiosity about my dog. I'm glad to say I haven't had anything other than nice responses. I'm sure the very experienced dog people roll their eyes when they read them and restrain themselves. However, if I received a huge reaction to my queries and I believed I had asked something in total innocence then it would probably be only human to be upset and then go and think about what I was doing wrong e.g. Remember CrazyDog's posts ages ago about crating the lab for 8 hours?? That caused a big reaction but the end result was positive.

cissy

Sadly not Sam, have rather gotten out of the swing of local Open shows due to not having lifts. those I knew that used to take me no longert show regularly, and when they do have a carful.

Now if you know anyone looking to have some0one go halves on petrol to Open shows, and has room for one or two agreable Elkhounds, who will travel on car rloor, with any dog etc I would be most grateful.

Trouble with our own group is that most hounds are large, and the small ones all seem to travel with paraphanalia. Also those with smaller breeds I would think don't realise what my breed is like, ie generally friendly and easy going with other dogs.

I have in the past travelled to shows with BSDs (my first breed) Dobes, Beagles, Italian Greyhounds, and Min Pins, and probably an assortment of others.

I can only apologise for lowering the tone of this forum with my "appalling" dog. But I only joined the site yesterday as I thought that I could receive some useful information/advice from other dog owners. I did not realise that you had to have a perfect dog in the first place before you could ask for advice.
Thanks to the people who did not judge my dog or myself for owning him and have given me useful advice, but I don't think I will be using this site any more.

Bec - Sorry I forgot to bring my photos in today, (too busy being an appalling owner and playing with my dog before leaving for work!) I will try to remember to bring them in on Monday and will email them to you privately. Thanks for your help

Lins

Lins ..you had , I think , 4 replies from different people....only one commented in the way you mention. It would be a shame if you allowed one persons opinion to put you off using the site.

We are , mostly , a friendly , pleasant lot

Melody :)

Lins....I was NOT calling either you or your dog appalling...all I said was that I was appalled that someone would breed such a cross. When you have been here a little longer you will realise that bloodhounds are of particular interest to me!!!!

Further more I was the person who answered your question & offered you correct advice on the sort of collar you need, so there is no need to go off on one.:D

Like I said....I am interested to know whether the BH was the sire or the dam....it was asked politely so no need to over react.

Apologies all around, I am a novice of jowley-type dogs (although I am not a novice off all doggie things) and was genuinly looking for advice.
I also apologise for going off on one as you called it, I came into work this morning to find a stack of work and then opened the forum, skip read your response and replied before reading it properly.
:o Apologies to all those doggie people out there who have read a request like this a hundred times before, I will have a good look in future for any similar questions asked.

Sam, in response to your question, the bloodhound was the sire although we did not get to see it as only the mother was available to see.

Lins , you can always try typing a key word into the Search engine here on Champdogs ....it is amazing some of the old threads that pop up ;)

Melody :D

Hi Lins

I am sure you are quite genuine :-) No one could make up that cross ;-) I wasn't suggesting your specific question had been asked before, it's just a feeling I have - hopefully I am quite wrong :p

Please do continue to ask questions here...you really will find a wealth of info

Lins the negative reaction would have been to the fact that someone would have mated these two breeds together, not anything to do with you or your dog per se.

There is a worrying trend out there to mix particular purbred dogs, call them a curte name and sell a crossbreed as some sort of new breed for ridiculous sums. The people usually doing this have no idea what combining to sometimes very differnt temperaments and instincts, and also have done no health research.

There is also a lot of crossing of various mastiff breeds to get a firce dog, among not very salubrious element in society.

Just as an example a dog with high guarding instinct mated to a retrive mad partner could prioduce a dog that is always stealing/picking things up, but then proceeds to guard them fiercely!!! There is a reason why the retrieving breeds are generally bred not to be posseesive, though such examples do exist, but it is a trait bred against, whereas the guarding ability in some breeds is bred for and desirable.

As Sam says Bloodhounds are her especial interest and the thought of her breed being misused in anyway is abhorent.

Appologies to Sam if I haven't got you right!

A bit like crossing a Rottie with a Labrador - You might get a dog that scares the s**t out of you and then runs off with the toilet roll :D
Lara x

*pmsl*
Sorry didn't have anything to say, just had to laugh at that one!
Lisa
xx

Spot on Brainless....I am seriously concerned/worried as to why anyone would want to make this particular cross...it sounds sinister to me (the reason, not the dog itself).

Yes my gut reaction was the same! Just like when someone came to class with a six month old Staffie Ridgeback cross from the Dogs home. It was in fact one of the dogs home helpers. Two weeks later it tried to savage her teenage son, and went back to the home for re-evaluation. sorry but for me a second chance it would not have had. Anyway it was PTS by the home, but what of the siblings that had been homed? It had been black so didn't catch adopters ey in the part litter that had been dumped.

Ok Lins, glad we got it sorted out.....like I said, its the mentality of wanting to cross two such breeds that is appalling...not you!
Hope my suggestion helped....has your dog got a strong hunting instinct? Was it done on purpose (can't imagine it happened accidentaly with a bloodhound somehow) and do you mind me asking you what the breeders reasons were. You don't happen to know the name of the sire or even which part of the country the breeder is in do you?
i know its lots of questions but the breed club is taking this matter very seriously & have asked me to get as much info as I can, before a disaster besets our breed. hope you don't mind, :)
sam

The breeder was cagey about answering any questions over the phone, so we went to the farm (in Leigh near to Wigan) to see the pups and to ask questions. When we got there there was few shaggy looking dogs wandering around the farm (which set alarms going off) and then when we got to the barn, where the dogs were being housed their was only one puppy left with a very viscous looking mother. The breeder again did not want to answer any questions apart from No - the puppy had not had any jabs, No - the puppy had not been wormed, the puppy was 8 weeks old, and had been fed on rice pudding with bits of chicken. He was not interested in whether I had had a dog before, or knew how to look after one, or anything about where the puppy was going to be re-homed to. So it was a bit of a rescue mission as I could not leave this defensless puppy with this person who did not care less where the puppy was going or who he was going with. I also know that I payed way over the odds for a cross-breed (£200) but as I said there was no way that I was leaving this poor thing there. Also after having the dog for a couple of days and a visit to the vets, it ws decided that the puppy was actually only about 6 weeks old, so we think he lied about the age so that buyers might not realise the size of the dog they where actually buying.
My god, I realised he didn't care about the dog, just the money, but I didn't realise how bad it sounds until I have written it all down.
Jake (my dog) is know 5 1/2 months old and I wouldn't say that he has a strong hunting instinct - his favourite past-time after walks is sitting in the back garden watching the local birds feeding on peanuts, he has not once tried to get closer than about 20 feet to them. He has also been brought up with a cockatiel in the house which is on a similar level to him know and this does not bother him, nor does he bother it!
I cannot remember the name of the farm off the top of my head, but if I can find it out, I will let you know.

O LIns :(
This is just the sort of reason why decent breeders get so frustrated and angry about cross breeding . Its not because they are being "snobby" in advocating pedigrees etc its because the cross breeding can throw up a whole host of problems due to not knowing what is going to be the dominant features/genes from the dam and sire .This can cause lots of health problems too .I feel sorry for pups mum being left with an idiot like that
I hope pup is healthy - has your vet given you any advice? It just seems such a strange combination and i think thats why people reacted in disbelief
I hope the other pups from the litter hoped to find nice homes too .
Good luck :)
Lel