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Topic Dog Boards / General / Rescues and breed identification ...
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 03.11.21 13:39 UTC
I do still check various rescues, and noticed a Basset in one of the Dogs Trust centres ...

https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/filters/~321~~~~n~~

I have contacted them because to me, the only thing that 'might' cause them to think he's Basset, is body and leg length and 'tricolour'.   Otherwise I'd suggest that's some kind of Collie mix!  Certainly NOT Basset - even if he is called Frankie :eek:
- By Madforlabs [gb] Date 03.11.21 13:57 UTC Upvotes 2
this made me laugh out loud!! Who on earth would think thats a basset hound!! Lovely face and colour though
- By furriefriends Date 03.11.21 14:07 UTC Upvotes 1
Basset  ???? .makes u worry about the dogs trust if he is a basset
- By jogold [gb] Date 03.11.21 14:28 UTC Upvotes 1
Collie cross more likely.
- By malwhit [gb] Date 03.11.21 16:35 UTC Upvotes 1
One of my local rescues had a Bichon up for adoption a few years ago - but it was black!

With so many new "breeds" being advertised which are really crosses, it's no wonder rescues get breed names wrong. A few years ago, dogs which weren't of a popular breed were just listed as small, medium or large mongrels by rescue centres.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 03.11.21 17:51 UTC Upvotes 1
They do it all the time listing a cross as only one breed In the breed search but then say it's a crossbreed on its info page. I don't get why they don't say it's a cross on the breed id, as they have some breeds on the list as breed and breed cross so it's not impossible to do on the system.

So that boy is down as a basset crossbreed  but the bred info only has basset listed.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 03.11.21 17:58 UTC Upvotes 1

> One of my local rescues had a Bichon up for adoption a few years ago - but it was black!<br />


One rescue had a dog listed as a vallhund. It was a Romanian street dog the size of a chi!

We get so many people with eastern European street dogs in the UK who think they dog is either a vallhund or a cross of one as if a rare breed dog is running around maiting everything that breathes. All because the agouti gene is common in the street populations so anything small or with short legs must be vallhund. Most are good about it when you say there won't be vallhund in it extremely unlikely and it's more likley a megji mix but the odd one of two won't accept their street dog is a random mongrel not a rare breed.
- By suejaw Date 03.11.21 22:54 UTC Upvotes 2
A basset? Hahaha

Oh dear.
I've seen some howlers from the DT in the past and this is another added to the list. All I'm seeing is a Collie mix.
- By Schnauday [gg] Date 04.11.21 10:20 UTC Upvotes 1
That gave me a giggle. Have they ever seen a Bassett :lol:
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 04.11.21 12:31 UTC
When I wrote to DT about this howler, I included a photo of my Frankie!!!
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 04.11.21 13:42 UTC
DT have another Basset in, in their Basildon branch - no photo yet.......  I am concerned that he's said to need to be an only dog.  Why?   Don't they know othat to insist in a pack hound lives a life as the only canine (or even feline actually) is CRUEL.  I've again written to them for more information.  :roll:
- By Schnauday [gg] Date 04.11.21 14:43 UTC

> DT have another Basset in, in their Basildon branch - no photo yet.......  I am concerned that he's said to need to be an only dog.  Why?   Don't they know othat to insist in a pack hound lives a life as the only canine (or even feline actually) is CRUEL.  I've again written to them for more information.  <img class="fsm fsm_roll" src="/images/epx.png" title="roll" alt=":roll:" />


I've not really thought about that before. Are pack hounds generally more friendly towards other dogs or is it just their "pack" and can behave as any other dog would towards an unknown dog?
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 04.11.21 16:58 UTC
Having had a small, mix gender pack of Bassets (non working although in Canada we did some field trialling with two) on the whole they got along with minimal scraps.  As a pack however, that tended not to include dogs outside the pack although when out with them, other dogs tended not to bother to mix with ours.  We did have one young male who started to challenge his uncle which I wasn't able to sort out.  I rehomed him with a lovely lady who had two female Bassets.  He, as far as I ever knew, didn't try to fight with them!!

I'd say in general, my lot behaved as any other dog would towards an unknown dog, as you put it.  It's just living as a single hound isn't something I'd want to see.
- By Goldmali Date 04.11.21 20:08 UTC
A huge number on their website are incorrectly identified, including the other way around -described as crossbreeds when they are a breed. But take a look at this "Dachshund" :lol: https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/dog/filters/~915~~~~n~~/1243957/barney
- By RozzieRetriever Date 04.11.21 22:31 UTC Upvotes 1
There’s a book on Amazon called the Happy Labrador. Pretty sure the pup on the cover is a golden retriever. Maybe they all need the I Spy book of dogs to refer to……
- By Agility tervs [gb] Date 04.11.21 22:48 UTC Upvotes 1
MamaBas. The colouring of that dog reminds me of the Sealight line of collies I used to see in obedience years ago
- By suejaw Date 04.11.21 23:51 UTC Upvotes 2
Many rescue dogs have bad breeding or poor raising so many can't live with other dogs, other animals etc.
They maybe have this info from his previous owners or may have seen reactivity to other dogs upon assessment
- By chaumsong Date 05.11.21 05:40 UTC

> The colouring of that dog reminds me of the Sealight line of collies


Yes, I had a sealight many years ago, she was a bit lighter than the "basset" but pretty similar :lol:

Marianne, that "dachshund" is adorable, looks like a really fun dog :cool:
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 05.11.21 08:05 UTC
I remember some years ago (before the days of compulsory microchipping)  that a rescue centre in Scotland had a 'Dobermann cross Cocker Spaniel' rehomed after being brought in as a stray. The poor lady who'd been calling them every day to see if her missing Gordon Setter had been taken to them was distraught when she eventually found out that they'd had it all the time and now she couldn't have it back. It's even a Scottish breed so there was no excuse.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 05.11.21 09:59 UTC Upvotes 1
What a tragic story - and that's why I always recommend anybody missing a dog, to GO INTO the local Shelters as the dog could so easily be in there, under another name.   I suppose she can but hope her dog is in a good home.   I wonder if there is more she can do to get it back?  Legally.

I'd seen that 'Dachshund' in DT.   Unbelievable!
- By Ann R Smith Date 05.11.21 10:24 UTC Upvotes 2
Many years ago I rescued a black & tan mongrel, with GSD markings, but the body size of a Cardigan Corgi with longer legs. I did the report to police(pre dog wardens) who insisted she was a collie x GSD! & kept her for 28 days & then adopted her.

When I took her to my vets for a check up, they too insisted she was a collie x GSD!

No way was she a first cross of any 2 breeds, she was simply a mongrel.

Why do rescues, dog wardens, vets etc fail to call a mongrel a mongrel & want to apply breed names to them?

My Rommie's mother is in the UK & the vet wanted to call her an OES cross :roll::roll: her pet passport identified her as a mongrel. She actually looks like a smallish working Beardie!
- By Goldmali Date 05.11.21 14:00 UTC Upvotes 1
Not rescues but the funniest experience I had (well you have to laugh) was when taking a Belgian Shepherd Malinois pup to the vet for a pets passport as he was going to a friend abroad. The vet wrote "Belgian Shepherd" in the passport and I asked if she could please add Malinois so that it was correctly specified which of the 4 BSD types the puppy was. She declined, saying there was no such thing as different varieties of BSD! I replied "Malinois, Tervueren, Groenendael and Laekenois!" to which her response was "The computer says there is only one Belgian Shepherd so that's all there is." :roll:
- By Ann R Smith Date 05.11.21 14:23 UTC
Not a rescue either, but a friend had a beautiful all black GSD bitch at Crufts, a well known Groedendael breeder/judge/exhibitor came across to them as a member of the public was taking the bitches photograph.

My friend was asked which ring the Groedendaels were in, my friend replied that they didn't have a clue as they were showing GSDs, "Oh but you've got a Groedendael with you" was the reply.

Hm the mind boggles as the GSD bitch wasn't long coated & had won 2 CCs & 1 Res CC, so obviously looked nothing like a Groedendael.

:eek::eek:
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 05.11.21 17:32 UTC

> DT have another Basset in, in their Basildon branch - no photo yet.......  I am concerned that he's said to need to be an only dog.  Why?   Don't they know that to insist in a pack hound lives a life as the only canine (or even feline actually) is CRUEL.  I've again written to them for more information.


Re above - I have now heard back from DT with the information that Bentley Basset, has to be in a home where he's the only dog because he 'resource guards'.  Sigh.  This just goes to show how much these Shelters actually know about the various Breeds, let alone i/d them.  It's a hound trait to have something they see as theirs, and guard it.  Be it something or a chair etc.  Obviously this hound has been getting away with this behaviour to the point the easy option is to home him as the only dog when with work and prevention/avoidance, this behaviour can be sorted out.    I wish I was close enough to go see him and what's going on, but he's in Basildon which is too far away from me here on the N.Cornwall coast to get involved with.

I have written back to them - the email is from 'Reception' there.  I just hope he is found a suitable home with people who know the breed and isn't left to live as an only dog with people who go out and leave him alone for hours.  :cry:
- By Honeymoonbeam [gb] Date 05.11.21 18:19 UTC
I was refused a papillon at my local shelter who insisted he was a JRT cross.  I've had papillons since the1980s and I know a pap when I see one but they won't be told.  No, their "experts" know everything!  I was a volunteer at the shelter at the time and was refused because I was told he didn't get on with cats.
- By Agility tervs [gb] Date 05.11.21 19:03 UTC
Also not a rescue. A number of years ago I had a bitch in season and a male border collie / working sheepdog arrived on my doorstep. Obviously I couldn't take the dog in and, as it was evening and there was nobody else to contact, I had to take the dog to the police station. I told them it was a border collie and if it didn't get claimed I was happy to take it to collie rescue. The following day I had a phone call from a local farmer thanking me for catching her dog. She had rung the police to report him missing but was told they only had a white mongrel with black patches. Luckily she went to check and got her dog back. It was an ISDS registered fully trained sheepdog
- By kazz Date 05.11.21 22:05 UTC
I had a black SBT bitch lovely and a lady walked past me stopped and said "what a nice Lab puppy" my bitch was about 12 months old then I said "she's a SBT" the woman said "Oh no I breed and show labs I know a good one when I see one"  I leave it with you all and Yes she was already wearing glasses and yes the bitch was standing on a lead next to me and the lady in question not half way across a field. Go figure
- By Nikita [gb] Date 06.11.21 07:54 UTC Upvotes 4

> DT have another Basset in, in their Basildon branch - no photo yet.......  I am concerned that he's said to need to be an only dog.  Why?


There are exceptions.  A friend has two bassets and if the female dies first, as she probably will, the male will live as an only dog because he absolutely will not accept another dog.  He is deeply unsociable towards them and we spent well over a year trying to remedy that.  Not every individual of a breed will follow the breed "rules" - no different to my male dobermann not only being able to live with other male dogs his size, but being better with them than the females, and his best friend being my adolescent entire male mali!
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 06.11.21 12:24 UTC

> There are exceptions.


Of course.   A friend of mine, now long gone sadly, had litter brother Bassets and they were a nightmare.  Constantly scrapping other than when out on exercise.  The only pair I had was a youngster who started challenging his uncle to the point that as the scraps became increasingly serious, I homed him.  They don't all read the Breed Standard!!

I do wonder whether the male your friend had, was defending 'his' female.  As said, I wish I could get across country to see the Basset in DT for myself.
- By Nikita [gb] Date 08.11.21 18:39 UTC

> I do wonder whether the male your friend had, was defending 'his' female.


He's not good with any other dogs, whether she's there or not.  He wasn't socialised at all as a pup (extenuating circumstances).  He's not good with people either - I'm the only person aside from his human family who can properly fuss him and get close to his face without losing mine.  Although even then, last time I did his nails he bit my leg because I accidentally hurt him.  That's after 4 years of successful nail trims and fusses and happy times.  He's got issues, poor boy.
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