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By Las
Date 28.01.21 11:00 UTC
Hi l have brought and paid for a puppy from Poland. She was due to travel to me in UK today and yesterday l received an email saying she has had an accident and cut leg open. I am so upset as you can imagine. Apparently she was playing with some spaniel dogs and next thing she got a deep cut down her front leg. They took her to vets and because of position it can't be stitched . She has to go back for antibiotic injections every day for 10 days starting today. I am really annoyed because lve paid £1500 for her and she should have been looked after properly in my opinion. The owners are sorry for whats happened but my puppy will no doubt have a scar where fur won't grow and could have a limp or injury for life. They said that they wouldn't send her unless she was 100 % well but lve paid for a healthy uninjured puppy and thats not what lm getting. I wish she was with me so l could look after her. I'm worried about her travelling now from Poland as they think another 2 weeks should be OK. She is 16 weeks old now . I love her but l don't know what to do for best. She said if she has problems long term l can wait for another puppy but l don't want to wait another 4 month. Plus l want my puppy. I'm just so annoyed this has happened and l feel l should get at least some money back as a result. Any advice would be appreciated guys thank you
By Gundogs
Date 28.01.21 11:12 UTC
Upvotes 2
This must be really disappointing, worrying and upsetting for you. If you trust this breeder and think that the injury is genuine, then try not to be too upset at the breeder. Accidents do happen, especially with boisterous puppies. The puppy I was keeping from one litter managed to hang himself by a front leg in a conifer tree/bush. Fortunately I was there and no lasting damage was done, but accidents can happen in the blink of an eye.
By Brainless
Date 28.01.21 12:26 UTC
Edited 28.01.21 12:28 UTC

I once had a pup with a Green stick fracture when Mum jumped over a standard height baby gate, and pulled it down on top of pup.
Accidents happen.
Worst thing was that I had been keeping pup to 16 weeks due to new owners prebooked holiday.
I had originally asked for full payment at 8 weeks, then pup would have been theirs, fully insured, and just boarding with me.
Unfortunately I let the payment side slide and ended up very out of pocket for treatment as new owners demanded a specialist opinion and confirmation pup was fully recovered with no lasting effects.
Accidents happen.
Lesson learned.
Got taller gate with retaining cups for the pressure fixings, which got checked for tighness weekly.

How frustrating and disappointing for you. FWIW, as you will quite possibly always be looking re the injury and of course there could be scarring, I think I'd back out of this one. Unless, like me when I bought my second import from the UK to Canada, you want her for her bloodlines, and any show successes, for him (may not be the same for you?) were going to be a bonus. As it turned out, he gained his Canadian title quite easily. At the very least, I'd be flying over there to look at the situation before making a final decision (impossible I'd imagine under the current restrictions). Why the need for daily a/b injections - I'd have thought tablets would be enough?
Have you SEEN this puppy? It's always better to meet and see unless, like me with mine, you know the bre
By suejaw
Date 28.01.21 13:35 UTC
If you are concerned about this then I would either get money back or wait. Sadly right now it's not like you can hop on a plane and go and see how it's fairing and make a more informed decision.
Might be easier for breeder to fix this and pet home it closer to home to them.
I know it's a blow but if you are wanting to show/breed and you like this breeders lines then maybe wait for the next litter. However maybe get your money back in the mean time and wait and see what comes around from her next litter as you may not like what you see there.
By suejaw
Date 28.01.21 13:36 UTC
Upvotes 4
Mamabas no one can fly anywhere right now so that is not practical in the scheme of things.
By weimed
Date 28.01.21 14:18 UTC
Upvotes 3
why are you buying a puppy from Poland? Unless I were a breeder who desperately wanted a genetic blood line from abroad I would not under any circumstances buy a puppy from abroad and even if wanted a blood line would want to go in person and view the litter, her relatives and check out how she was reared etc.
For a pet puppy there is no way I would do it. Too many puppy farmers sell to people in foreign countries who want a quick purchase and the buyers can come very unstuck with sick puppies costing thousands in vet bills. This aside from fact the conditions puppy farmers keep their breeding stock in are cruel and by buying you are funding that. There are very few genuine good breeders who would wish to sell abroad, majority are puppy farmers and without flying out there and looking for yourself you cannot tell
By Tectona
Date 28.01.21 15:17 UTC
Upvotes 3

Well, I disagree with weimed. I have twice imported from great breeders who care very much about their breed and have great reputations. Wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. I disagree that there are very few of them.
By furriefriends
Date 28.01.21 15:40 UTC
Edited 28.01.21 15:44 UTC
Upvotes 1

Extremely unfortunate is an understatement but accidents do happen and I would expect pup to be playing so unless you really knew the circumstances its hard to say the breeder was negligent
The op says she has paid for the pup and feels she really wants this one especially as she doesn't want to wait for one from another litter.
Maybe having some video calls with the breeder and actually seeing the pup and its injury as things progress may help the decision.also would the vet forward records of the injury if breeder gives permission ? That may offer reassurance .
This maybe something that cant be decided just yet and needs time to see how the injury progresses
Assuming the op decides to go ahead with the pup and pup makes a full recovery I would have thought it would be difficult to demand a reduction in price . Unless deferring having the pup cost the op extra
By MamaBas
Date 28.01.21 16:49 UTC
Upvotes 2
> Mamabas no one can fly anywhere right now so that is not practical in the scheme of things.

You think I'm not aware of that?? I was just suggesting that best practice would be to go see the puppy ...............................................!
I think I'd probably ask for detailed photos, video of the wound and vet report from their vet.
Then I'd take all that to my vet via a video consult and ask their opinion about how it would heal and the severity of it.
If my vet thought it would be ok, then I would want the pup now. I've never heard of a pup needing AB injections daily for weeks... why not give tablets?? Daily injections are just going to make a pup fearful of the vets. I would ask for the pup right now, to travel with a cone on and I'd continue treatment when pup arrived with me.
By JoStockbridge
Date 28.01.21 20:09 UTC
Edited 28.01.21 20:11 UTC
Upvotes 2

Sadly accidents happen. It sounds like the breeder has been socialising the puppy which is good so unless there is more to the story I wouldn't say the breeder wasn't looking after it properly. Last thing you want is a puppy that's never been taken out by the breeder before being sent over.
Were you buying the puppy for showing? If so is it a breed where a scar would cause a problem? Or for breeding/compeating?
If it was me I would ask for a letter from their vet once treatment is done stating that it won't have any lasting effect on the puppy past a scar and all being well have the pup when it's ready or if the vet confirms the pup will have issues as a result I would either take their offer of a later litter or ask for ask them to rehome the puppy and refund me. Weather that was the full money or less some as the breeder would have payed out expenses to keep it longer for me.
> my puppy will no doubt have a scar where fur won't grow and could have a limp or injury for life.
I wouldn't necessarily blame the breeders, these things happen, and it is good pup was meeting different dogs to play with, its just really unfortunate timing.
What breed is it? If pup has anything other than a short whippet type coat then you probably won't see the scar. Several of mine have had injuries over the years, usually as youngsters doing crazy things, I've never been able to see any long term scarring , even in a long cut down the front of a leg that was stitched.
By Hoggie
Date 28.01.21 21:38 UTC
JoStockbridge:> Sadly accidents happen. It sounds like the breeder has been socialising the puppy which is good so unless there is more to the story I wouldn't say the breeder wasn't looking after it properly.
This is such a topic of passionate views and for all the right reasons. I must admit, I have never understood the reasons for buying from abroad unless there is a limited number of sires and dams /gene pool enhancement. We have so many fantastic Breeders here in the UK.
Puppies are energetic. lively and 'camacazi pilots' at times and injuries do happen. Attching a label to the Breeder of being negligent is unfounded IMO. The Puppy in question is young, healthy
and acting normally. Bones will heal as will scars. asthetically there will be little difference in show potential and more importantly, will make no difference to temperament, natural breed characteristics nor make them less of a fantastic companion as a puppy and adult dog.
As suggested safeguards re longterm problems due to the fracture should be sought via Vet reports giving commitment/assurance that the breeder will contribute toward such issues.
The Breeder wants to delay sending the Puppy to the New Owner until all is well which shows the importance they place on providing a completely healthy addition to the family.
Maybe way off the mark but I would see the Breeders upfront approach and keeping the Puppy until fully fit as a positive.
By Hoggie
Date 28.01.21 21:53 UTC
Las:>
> l have brought and paid for a puppy
> I am so upset
> I am really annoyed
> l don't want to wait another 4 month. Plus l want my puppy
> I'm just so annoyed this has happened and l feel l should get at least some money back as a result
What updates have you sought re your Puppy's progress and how are they recovering at this point in time?
Hope things are really positive all round.
By Brainless
Date 28.01.21 22:10 UTC
Upvotes 2

I agree, why not ask for some video of the pup and the injury.
By Nikita
Date 29.01.21 18:52 UTC

Sometimes these things happen, puppies are clumsy, and it's not necessarily going to be as bad as you're thinking.
On boxing day 2019, my older malinois attacked my older collie. In the fray, my younger collie was trying to pull her off and grabbed her by the front leg, causing a triangular flap right on top of her wrist to be pulled open, and cutting deep into the tissue. It took a lot of bandaging and it got infected too, but you wouldn't know it had happened now to look at her, and she's had no other problems because of it.
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