I usually feed Nutriment but thought I'd experiment and got a few tubs of Benyfit.

I only tried it with one of my dogs, but she pooped all these shards of bone - some quite sharp and large. The poop was almost entirely these bone pieces. I didn't feel it was safe, so I gave the tubs to a friend. My friend said he dog's poop was totally normal...

I emailed Benyfit to tell them about it but they never replied. Nutriment has very finely ground bone in it whereas Benyfit has these big pieces which I can see in the raw food before it's eaten...

Does anyone else feed Benyfit and is it normal or ok for a dog to poop bone bits like this? Is my dog atypical in not digesting these bits? What is happening for other people who feed it?

I then tried some Raw Natural food - and also saw large pieces of bone in it. My dog appeared to poop fine with this, but it kinda freaked me out a bit.

To what degree are bits of bone ok/safe in premade raw completes??? I'd like to try other brands and see what works best for us but I'm now a bit worried about how big the bone bits are going to be - but I don't know if I'm over-reacting on the safety front??

onetwothreefour:

> I usually feed Nutriment but thought I'd experiment and got a few tubs of Benyfit. <br /><br />I only tried it with one of my dogs, but she pooped all these shards of bone - some quite sharp and large - they should break down during the digestive process.

Hmm:  I feed raw chicken bones and lamb bones from my butcher mixed with 'working dog' kibble.  I would be concerned if I saw sharp shards of any
bone coming out the other end.  I would be asking myself what kind of damage could be done to their intestines & bowels before it is expelled.

I sometimes feed raw shredded vegetables and thought it would be ok to feed half sweetcorn husks with limited kernels on them. I can confirm
they do not get digested either and indeed produced very hard stools - never again!

My advice re raw feeding would be 'boneless' only as there may well be an issue with your particular dog's acid production - I'm not qualified to diagnose
OIMO

The only time I've seen bone in poo is if they have a whole bone and.then rarely as I don't give weight bearing bones which are hard 
I get all my food  from the dogs butcher in Devon by mail order and theirs is ground on a 20mm plate. Not had any issues at all and that is a coarser grind than many use . I have occasionally seen bone but not often and if I feed pheasant pigeon etc the feathers are obvious but again not in poo.
Nutriment  is a finer grind but I am not sure about benyfit

You can't just feed boneless as dogs need bone for a balanced diet. Something has to be added to replace the vitamins and minerals if not given as bone ground or otherwise. They also need offal and meat ir its unbalanced and longterm will give problems. 
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As u have found out sweetcorn cobs do not digest and infact can be very dangerous. They act like harpoons and can very easily get stuck in the gut needing emergency surgery

I feed my three on ProDog Raw completes. Most of them have bone in to make up the 80/10/10 ratio that raw feeding is based on but they aren't big chunks of bone at all (I don't really notice them) and I've never had any problem with the poo. I think if dogs are eating whole raw bones they probably crunch them up pretty small before ingesting but I can't say that for sure. I feed raw chicken wings and necks and they have had bigger bones before all with no problems. I would think if the bones are already a reasonably small size like you have said they are in the Benyfit then they might slip through without being crunched any further.

From my understanding bone is essential in a raw diet. On average over a week a dog should be eating 80% meat, 10% offal and 10% bone to get everything they need. They don't need bone in every meal (that's why some of the ProDog completes don't have it in) but it should average out roughly. Happy to be corrected by someone who knows more than my limited knowledge on the subject.

I did do a lot of research on completes before I put my dogs on ProDog Raw and they came out the best nutritionally, competitively priced, and I have to say their customer service is just fantastic. All of their packaging is recyclable as well which really appealed to me. Have probably got a discount code for referrals somewhere if you decide to give them a try. I highly recommend.

Furriefriends: > sweetcorn cobs do not digest and infact can be very dangerous
Exactly why I posted the warning as a no no.

> You can't just feed boneless as dogs need bone for a balanced diet

Vitamins & minerals are included in the kibble mentioned

I agree further protein is required...large cow bones are my dogs treats and having both large & medium breeds, they can polish off these bones with all the goodness of the raw marrow in a couple of days.

Didn't think is was clear regarding the sweetcorn exactly how dangerous they are so felt it needed reiterating

I am a pure raw feeder so would not include kibble .it's also hard to balance  a.complete kibble and then add anything to it  .

I would never advise weight bearing bones like beef bones as they are very hard and can  break teeth and can be difficult to digest especially in a dog that isn't totally raw fed. Not so bad if they have meat on and then removed before the bine is eaten However everyone  decides what they feel is best for their  dogs of.course
Raw feeding isn't about extra protein its about  getting the balance right over time so not each meal  as masajackrussell explains. Get it wrong and the first thing u see is either a constipated dog or one with very loose poo.
I love feeding raw but it is something u need to research before doing .there are some good.fb groups to help and now if u don't want to diy some great companies producing completes around .
Sorry 1234 that's a bit away from your question

furriefriends:  Fair comment reiterating the message of sweetcorn.

By my own experience, feeding raw beef bones has been a way of providing additional dental care rather than adding to dental problems such as broken teeth
but everyone to their own. 

Chomping on bones has a similar advantage to toothpastes with abrasives added in the human world which means that annual
dental examinations of my guys report very few issues (apart from my old girl of 12 who has had a full dental scrape & extraction this year)

Re kibble:  it gives you an exact breakdown of ingredients allowing a balanced diet to be calculated.  My Dogs work and therefor need a different feeding
programme compared to those who don't work. 

Just sharing my findings over time.  Sure everyone will have different views.

Never tried it but mine prefer a courser type mince so I currently feed Thistle raw food. Their complete's are in 454g packs at around £1 each.
The finer the mince the less chance 1 of mine will eat.

I feed raw and bone either from raw meaty bones or completes and it is always broken down into tiny bits.  If you see big pieces of bone in the poop then I would suggest that your dog's digestive enzymes/acids are not strong enough to break it down and I would only feed ground bone in future.

Thanks 91052, I think it was the Benyfit goat raw which that happened with.

Maybe she has to stick with the Nutriment. What other raw companies grind their bone quite finely if I want to try other brands? I looked at Naturaw but that seems even chunkier...

I have just switched to Naturaw.  I use the 80.10.10 and add my own veg.  I can't say I've found large pieces of bone.  Wolf tucker is finely ground as that is one I've tried and liked too.

Albion Meats are quite finely minced. I'd say they're a bit less sloppy than Nutriment. They are quite reasonably priced too.
The Dog's Butcher is good quality food and mostly fairly free of large pieces of bone.

The dogs butcher is a coarser grind than nutrimemt which is more pate like.
It is excellent quality.and a good range ive used them for years no
There is  also  a puppy range which night be a finer grind .
If u contact jo the owner she will be able to tell anyone who wants to know how fine it is

Thanks!

did you see my pm 1234 ?

Another thought if u are on fb join barf uk they will have lists of suppliers around the country and will know which are the fine ground ones if u ask

Didn't see PM - will check!

No worries just wanted to make sure i hadn't come up with something useful .as it happens I didn't lol

Ok, well an update on the Naturaw - it's great and I'm not having the problems with the large bits of bone that we had on the Benyfit.

Excellent its about finding what suits
All completes arnt equal