masajackrussell:
 
You suggested I had expressed agreement with today's pricing which I did not and infact agreed how rediculous it was but hey - have a go for the sake of it anyway...the norm!

Madforlabs post (22nd) - well it is very poynient in this thread regarding Puppy Pricing concerns which is embroiled within Springador74's issue - or have I misinterpreted comments again?

I need to consider some sort of comprehension enhancement programme according to Silverleaf79- the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
(having had a TIA last year I do not appreciate my 'understanding or reasoning' being questioned - total recovery means 'fully functioning!')

> And had you read the thread properly and not relied on someone else advising you of it's content, I would be right to accuse you of having lack of reading comprehension. (unsulting - isn't it!)

I think you’ll find that it wasn’t me that misinterpreted what Springador said and basically went off on one about it.

No one else advises me of a thread’s content. I’m a grown adult and I can read perfectly well all by myself. If I feel the need to respond to something, I will read it again several times to make sure I haven’t made a mistake, because ranting and raving over something I claimed someone said when they had actually said something different would make me look like a bit of an idiot, wouldn’t it?

I was reading something recently about how we all interpret things according to our own filters. A “dominance” trainer will tend to interpret certain behaviours as a dog being stubborn, or trying to be the boss, whereas a trainer using primarily positive methods might see a scared unconfident dog, or one that simply hasn’t been taught an alternative to those problematic behaviours. The same applies very much to people on this forum and the way they interpret others’ posts.

Your own filter, from the way you present yourself here, is one of “everyone is attacking me” and I think you respond in a way that is often very confrontational because of this. You believed, before you even started posting here, that we are all hypocritical and snobbish and not accepting of anyone outside the show world, and everything we say is refracted through that lens of yours. As soon as anyone expresses a different opinion you jump on them because you assume everyone else is going to, or jump on people who haven’t even seen the thread yet! Somehow you’re upset when we agree, and also upset if we disagree.

At this point, I’m starting to think that if someone quite rightly pointing out that you’ve made a mistake about something someone else said on a dog forum full of people you clearly don’t like much or have any respect for can cause you this much stress, it might be healthier for you to interact a little less.

I really wouldn’t care if someone accused me of a lack of reading comprehension. Either I interpreted something wrong, in which case they were right to call me out on it (especially if I basically called someone a liar because of it) and I’d apologise and try to be more careful in future, or my reading comprehension was absolutely fine and their opinion of me  is wrong and therefore doesn’t matter. Other people can judge for themselves.

Really, in a world with COVID and chlorinated chicken and wars and trafficking and puppy farms, someone on the internet suggesting I can’t read properly is pretty small beans.

Silverleaf:  Really?> looking like a bit of an idiot - what wonderful charm you have

> we all interpret things according to our own filters. A “dominance” trainer will tend to interpret certain behaviours as a dog being stubborn, or trying to be the boss, whereas a trainer using primarily positive methods might see a scared unconfident dog, or one that simply hasn’t been taught an alternative to those problematic behaviours. The same applies very much to people on this forum and the way they interpret others’ posts

Just to confirm I haven't misinterpreted anything:  You are now informing me that I and others on here should take notice of a dog behaviour specialists as helpful in changing our ways of thinking?. Never been called a DOG before on here - a BITCH sometimes but that has in itself been water off a duck's back.

> “everyone is attacking me” - you as an individual are doing a pretty good attack job so far.> but then denial of your intentions/actions, which will happen as always, will be your saving grace.

it might be healthier for you to interact a little less.<br />  - I don't believe you have any authority or indeed any qualification to advise an individual on what you think they should do on this Forum or how often they should interact, therefor I have no interest in your line of thought.

try to be more careful in future If I had approached you for advice, then you are quite within your rights to respond. However, I haven't, never have and never will.  Do you feel justified in making some sort of phsycological diagnosis on an individual?  Very dangerous water indeed and I can't imagine seen as appropriate in any circumstance.


You have written a post, almost as long as a published novel about how a certain individual should behave, and yet you still have to make yourself heard through your last paragraph. Strange how Narcisists & those suffering with Aspergers show that very same behaviour. 
Just serving you a little food for thought and felt I should outline my observations - uninvited of course as was the serving you felt necessary you dish out to me....

I do have a tendency to verbosity when trying to make myself extra clear, using examples or allegory to illustrate what I want to express because I don’t have much confidence in my writing ability. Obviously that didn’t work for me this time. Oh well.

The dog training thing? A case of me trying to be more clear, by using an example I hoped we’d all understand, as we all train dogs. I have no idea how anyone could interpret that as an accusation of being a bitch or a dog. Simply that how you see things is coloured by your own attitude and experience.

I’d be tempted to invoke the phrase “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail” but that might have people confused as to why I’d be calling them a hammer or a nail!

When I see someone engaging in behaviours that are obviously making them unhappy, I do have a habit of suggesting they rethink and maybe try something else. It just seems like a nice thing to do, for their good and for the good of others around them. I even do it to people I don’t like. They are free to ignore my advice as they choose. But I’m not the kind of person who can just let someone blunder into a big patch of nettles without at least telling them the nettles exist, even if they didn’t specifically ask me if there were any stinging plants in the vicinity.

Note: I am not calling you or anyone else a nettle.

I don’t understand the last paragraph, and I can’t find a trait that I display that is also shared with both people with Asperger syndrome and those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Maybe you could clarify for me? I’d also like to know who you think is giving me my second-hand information on forum posts and why you assume this is happening.

Silvetleaf... u may feel u don't have much confidence in your writting ability but having read your last posts in particularl u should have no fear there
Imo for what its worth i felt they were very well written and clear. Also some interesting points made .
Ps I have a similar problem with verbosity:)

> You suggested I had expressed agreement with today's pricing

Hoggie, below is my exact post (my first post on this thread) including the part of your post that I was referring to. You are in italic and I am in bold just for clarity. Your comment that I am responding to now is at the beginning of this post.

> Re not knowing a dog being sold 12 months ago for £1000 is now priced around £2 to £2.5K - you are such fibbers!  The Forum has been debating for months re pricing and the reasons for today's market which you have commented on!

Just to point out Hoggie that Springador did not say this. What was actually said was that they didn’t know how a puppy that was worth £1000 a year ago is now worth £2500 as costs have not increased.

Now if you can clearly tell me where I have said in this post that you agree with today's pricing of Labrador puppies then I will eat my hat because I sure as hell can't see it.

> Madforlabs post (22nd) - well it is very poynient in this thread regarding Puppy Pricing concerns which is embroiled within Springador74's issue - or have I misinterpreted comments again?

Of course it is relevant to the thread Hoggie but not to your misinterpretation of my post.

> I need to consider some sort of comprehension enhancement programme according to Silverleaf79- the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

As you can see now (hopefully), there was no need to address this comment to me.