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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Juvenile overies
- By Fendi one [ca] Date 07.03.20 04:40 UTC
My bitch was diagnosed with this...anyone else have heard of this or had it?
My bitch is the last of my line and I wanted to breed her but repo vet doesn't think she will conceive..any thoughts. I'm desperate.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 07.03.20 11:37 UTC
I've not heard, or had any of mine diagnosed with this - and Google doesn't tell me much either.   Faced with this I might get a second opinion from an acknowledged expert.    Sor your repo vet 'doesn't think she will conceive' ..... has she been mated (tried?).

If she does prove to be infertile, then I guess you could look 'sideways' to pick up this bloodline?   Litter sister you've sold?  A male (brother) who has been successfully bred?  And so on.
- By jogold [gb] Date 07.03.20 14:32 UTC
I've never heard of this either, has she actually been in season and how old is she.
Rarely some bitches don't come into season or sexual maturity before 2yrs old.
I wouldn't recommend breeding from these.
- By Fendi one [ca] Date 07.03.20 17:29 UTC
I know I have heard of two pugs with this and women can have it to..
No all litter mates are fixed..as well as mother and her litter mates are all fixed and almost eight years old.:cry:
- By Fendi one [ca] Date 07.03.20 17:29 UTC
I know I have heard of two pugs with this and women can have it to..
No all litter mates are fixed..as well as mother and her litter mates are all fixed and almost eight years old.:cry:
- By Fendi one [ca] Date 07.03.20 17:42 UTC
She is four years old ..and when in heat the heat last for forty days and her progesterone never moved past 0.4 through the whole heat.
I had the stud dog with me for a year tried for two cycles ..male was not very interested in her and she wanted to kill him..
And she was prog tested both heats and ultrasounded by a repo vet..
He said in order to get puppies from her would require very invacive surgeries..
Which I really don't want to put her through.
Also when doing cornification smears she only gets to 50% then cells break down.

I have had and bred my breed for 35 years and can't believe juvenile overies either..
He said it is her overies never matured past puppy hood.
It is common in rats!  He said he has seen it many times before...just my luck huh lol
It breaks my heart..my girl is a ckc akc ch and has a pedigree of longevity which is very hard to get in my breed.
So now I have nothing left :-((((
- By jogold [gb] Date 07.03.20 21:21 UTC
It is heartbraking.
- By onetwothreefour Date 08.03.20 09:45 UTC Upvotes 1
Fendi one, I would highly recommend you join the Avidog Platinum programme - even just for one month (payment is a monthly fee) - so you can get expert advice on this from Dr Gayle Watkins, who runs Avidog. 

Avidog folks are based across North America (mostly) and will be able to recommend experienced repro vets and ideas for what might be going on.  They are really good when it comes to the technical and medical aspects of breeding. 

You can sign up here:  https://www.avidog.com/shop/dog-breeder-memberships/avidog-breeder-college-membership-monthly/  - and you can cancel at any time so you only need join for a month if you want. 

Be sure to join the FB group if you do join the scheme, as that's where the most useful advice and info is.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 08.03.20 10:39 UTC Upvotes 1
OK so once you have ruled out being able to take a litter from her, and there are no obvious close relatives available (still entire), then can you get together with others who may have some of what's in her background (did you breed her - if not, then her breeder?).  Depending on what breed, there must be some of the lines behind her, around?

I was a bit stuck like you when on returning to the UK from Canada with the nucleus of my kennel, I looked for the lines going back to the sire of my foundation bitch, without success.   So I had to go for phenotypes going forward - and in truth, it was the same when first arriving in Canada after I dropped my initial plan to mate our foundation bitch to her UK bred half brother (our second hound), I had to go for type.   As it happened, going for type meant I unwittingly found an American dog who, 5 generations back, went to a UK bred bitch who was sent to a kennel in America, from one of the top kennels in the UK - and they had a common ancestor.   Something about that American dog was familiar.

Breeding can be full of the best laid plans, which don't work out.   But I have always believed that as one door shuts, another opens.
- By Fendi one [ca] Date 09.03.20 01:24 UTC
Yes I am her breeder.
I am actually waiting right now for a male puppy out of half her bloodline..(actually the same stud dog I was going to breed her to)not my side though her sires side. My kennel name will go on that puppy so at least when im in the ring I will still feel like I'm pushing myself.
I'm getting a male because if I can't get puppies from her I really don't want to breed anymore..
I'm heart broken over this..looking at my beautiful healthy bitch that I can't go on with has just ended it for me.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Juvenile overies

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