I’m interested in getting another dog for a companion for my staffy, the puppy I am interested in is gender neutral. Does anyone know of a pet insurer? As I’m having problems finding one......

Either a male(dog) which has been castrated or a female(bitch) which has been spayed, as far as I am aware they are still classified as male(dog) or female(bitch)...not gender neutral...

I was wondering about what 'gender neutral' meant

My late brother in law, who did his research re insurance, used More Than for their dog.   But you must, obviously always read the small print.   And to be honest, having got down to just two hounds, one being a particularly non-risk breed, I took some quotes and decided as I didn't want to 'buy the companies', I'd save my money.   I haven't carried insurance since our first, back in 1972, mainly because what I wanted for my small show/breeding kennel, wasn't actually covered by most insurance.   Most of the vets we've had over the years, would allow stage payment if we hit a bad patch, although our vet visits were normally minimal, other than for routine things.

Insurance companies are there to make business!!

Thanks for your message. The puppy I am interested in is neither male or female, it does not have the obvious genitalia. Therefore I would not know whether it has more male genes or female genes till it is older or upon more medical investigations.

Thanks for the tips on insurance.

How does it go to toilet?

I’m not sure how as I have not met it yet, just had photos. I will ask the breeder.....

The breeder said they do not urinate at all. I’m still finding out the finer details....

I suspect that this might be a very inexperienced breeder!

This doesn't make any sense. A dog needs to go for a pee, if it has ni genitalia then it would be very ill and need surgery for it to go.
If the breeder has no idea then i would walk away, doesn't fill me with any confidence

I agree with Sue - run away!

(As an aside, I do wish there wasn’t such a trend recently for people to say “gender” when they mean “sex”. Gender is how you see yourself, and dogs lack the self-awareness to have a gender at all. Similarly human foetuses, despite everyone having “gender reveal parties” when what they are actually revealing is what type of genitals the baby has.)

For insurance after many years of not using brokers I have started using vip4u who specialise in pet insurance .
As for.the puppies sex. I agree with suejaw if this is really the case then it is a very sick puppy.
Could it be ectopic uretha ? I
Either way I  would leave well alone or u could have a lifetime of vet bills and sadness . insurance companies are more than likely to exclude a whole range of things with the info u have given


The breeder said they do not urinate at all.

None of the puppies pee ????? Really ???

How old are these puppies ?

>The breeder said they do not urinate at all.

An inability to urinate is incompatible with life!

There is a very rare human condition where this could happen but it needs immediate operation at birth . I cant imagine anyone t allowing a litter or even one puppy to continue   like this let alone sell.the puppy and certainly they wouldn't live long without an  immediate op even if this can be done on a dog https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_agenesis_and_testicular_agenesis explained under treatment

do not have the puppy.  it must be urinating somehow or it would be dead but that does not mean it will ever have any control over urination. an incontinent dog is not something to deliberately get.   the breeder should not be offering this poor animal to anyone- they should either keep and pay all the numerous vet bills it will have or have the pup pts.  no responsible breeder would palm it off on someone else.
also no insurance company would cover any issue related to its lack of genitals and quite likely would have a whole heap of  other things excluded too.

The puppies, there are two are 8weeks old. I agree with you all so many red flags aren’t there. I too think i should steer well clear. Thanks for your help in helping me think objectively about the situation. I’m sure I will find another puppy soon!

Just been chatting to my vet, if these puppies are 8 weeks old & have never peed & have no genitalia, they would be dead. 8 weeks of urine held in a puppy's body would exceed the bladders capacity & would have caused the bladder either to burst or the back up to the kidneys would have caused them to fail & then the rest of the bodies organs to shut down well before 8 weeks.

Someone is not telling the truth in this tale of alleged"gender neutral"puppies.(it is half term people BTW)

Re half term I had considered that too

Thanks for the posts. The breeder got a bit evasive when I was asking questions so you could be right.
In any event I’ve found another puppy who is a female and I’m in talks with the breeder!

Many years ago I used help out at a largish toydog show kennel. One day we had a phone call asking for advice about an 8 week old puppy which appeared to be of an indistinct sex, having features of both - even the breeder was not certain. We asked the lady to bring the puppy for us to have a look at. It was a perfectly normal bitch puppy, and they thought the protrubrence was a penis!

> they thought the protrubrence was a penis!

Nowt so queer as folks.   I bet that would have given a vet a good laugh.