Hi all,

So my little 13 week old Akita Yoshi has been sick upon waking up first thing in the morning at 7am.

He’s done this about 4 times now over the last two weeks and in that time I thought it might help to change his feeding times from 8am and 5pm (2 scoops per time), to 8am, 12, 3pm and 6pm (one scoop per time).

This made no difference. So I tried back on 8 and 5 but then feed him again two scoops at 10pm half hour before bed.

Again made no difference.  I turned to making him some chicken and rice at the least above times for two days and again no difference atall.

I get his food specifically blended for his breed and age from tails.com (now I was told they wasn’t good but they have a far higher meat content than any food I’ve seen on the market before going to raw food).

His ingredients are 237grams daily,

66% total meat - 64.3% chicken, beet pulp, brown rice, maize, while dried egg, 2.2%salmon oil, dried yeast, chicory extract, nucleotides (from yeast), potassium chloride, natural preservatives, giucosamine, hydrochloride, chondrotin, sulphate, yucca extract and dried marigold.

He’s loved eating this stuff from 8weeks old and each month I update his weight and they change his formula to suit his growing.

Now I took him to the vets this morning for them to check up, he was fine as I thought, no issues and they took his bloods as a precautionary step to make sure there’s nothing in the background causing it. They also gave me some capitals to give him along with some gastro food to trickle feed him.

Anyone have any experience in Akita’s being sick (balf) as soon as they wake up?

Sounds like hunger pukes .try giving him a small snack at bedtime or go back to four meals again the last being near bedtime.its
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Tails are a commercial comoanyit's not usual to alter food regularly if a food is suiting sounds like marketing. Did this start when an alteration was made ? If so maybe something isn't suiting in the new mix. Tails are relatively new to the market and if the above changes don't help I would look at another food possibly one of the cold pressed kibbles with few ingredients if u don't want to do raw.what did his breeder use ?

Hi, I’ve tried it, I’ve even fed him just chicken and rice at bedtime, makes no odds what he eats he seems to wake up extremely hungry to the point he’s sick instantly.

Last night I fed him rice n chicken at 12 midnight and he was sick as soon as he woke at 7am.

I think they fed him just pedigree dry food.

No change to what’s in the mix from tails but portions have changed and change again this week.

maybe he needs more to eat ? U sat he Wakes really hungry so a bigger last  meal and a biscuit at bed time
  What the packets say is guide and dogs vary .try increasing his daily amounts

We have occasionally had this with our hounds - either during the night or first thing before breakfast.   The Basset I currently have started this and I 'cured' it by giving him half a normal can of tinned Chappie at around 10 pm, literally just before he goes to bed.  

I'd suggest that your puppy would do best having Breakfast at around 7 am, lunch around noon, the third meal before 5 pm and a small last evening meal, before bed.   For now.   He may be ready to have lunch dropped (even if I'd not do that yet) but if you do, you should up the amount of the remaining food, correspondingly.

Puking aside, you should be able to feel the ribs, but not see them.   And always talk to your breeder, assuming he/she is experienced with his breed and bloodlines.

I agree with everyone else about spreading mealtimes fairly evenly 4 x over 24hrs and as late as possible a last meal although i wouldn't feed rice as it just tends to sit in the stomach and ferment.  Have you changed what you're feeding quite a lot? With processed foods particularly this can also cause problems.

What does he weigh? I've forgotten how much dried food is recommended but it doesn't sound much for such a big breed

Op says he wakes extremely hungery then sicks up bile . I am thinking he may need more food per day regardless of what Tails say he should eat. Imo worth a try

I do wonder how someone who has never seen a particular dog can decide what its ration should be. I do weigh my dogs food as they are veterans and I am trying to maintain a steady weight, but I am able to make adjustments based on their activity levels, and the way they actually look - sometimes a little less, sometimes a little more. I'm not criticising but asking, could the lack of personal contact with the dog cause a problem in arrangements such as Tails?

At 13 weeks e should be on at least 3 meals a day and the last I give my pups at about 9pm - 10pm, so that they are not so long before their breakfast.

I find with pups of this age 3 meals a day 9am (I always walk before breakfast) 1pm and 6pm plus on waking I always give a couple of gravy bones or a bonio..  just a little something to tide them over while they have a short walk !

Update:

Bloods came back fine, the gastro intestinal food they said to try has made him seriously gassy and this morning he was sick again even after putting his good upto 319grams with water added to slow his eating.

I’m at a loss as he’s now reluctant to eat anything

I would tempt him into eating with some cooked chicken no rice or cooked white fish for a couple of meals . U could also add some slippery elm powder to calm his tummy then consider changing his food to another .Tails may not be suiting him.make sure he stays hydrated perhaps make some bone broth and give him that to drink

Tried it this morning fresh cooked chicken that was still warm and he ignored it same with treats and his dental stick. Put a bowl of tails food out wheat free and he’s took it down fine.

He is fine in himself I’m hoping the jump to 318grams a day will help

That's good sounds like he just needed to give his tummy a rest.