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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Training treats, pate edition...
- By poodlenoodle Date 19.09.18 07:46 UTC
My youngest is all over the place hormonally just now, and his normal treats aren't good enough to hold attention during "exciting" bits of walks (barking dog coming towards him, squirrel ran past, exciting looking group of dogs in the distance). He is happy, thrashing his tail and not looking anxious, but is so distracted the other end of the lead might as well be on a gate post for all the heed he pays me.

I'm doing a lot of engage/disengage with him so I really need a treat that works. Yesterday I had great success with pate, but i was feeding globs of it off my fingers which was a bit disgusting for two 45 minute walks!

So does anyone have any recipes for turning pate into treats, or know of a brand of human-type pate in a tube, or know of tubes one can buy and fill ones self? I know Arden Grange do a liver paste which I'm going to try but in general dog-recipe things don't quite cut it in these high distraction situations.

Any help much appreciated.
- By Merrypaws [gb] Date 19.09.18 08:26 UTC
Primula cheese in a squeezy tube worked for us (beware of versions which include onions though).  There are several varieties of liver pate for dogs, Arden Grange is good, I had excellent success with it. Some other varieties contain really very little liver (one I saw had 4% :eek:) so read the labels.  There is (or was) also a make of salmon mousse/pate (for dogs) in a tube (this sort of thing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dehner-Snack-Grade-Salmon-Cream/dp/B0719574JF/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1537345127&sr=1-1&keywords=salmon+dogs+tube).

At a quick search, i can't find the chicken mousse/pate tubes I also used.

I found it best to vary the flavours so that he didn't get bored with what was once a super-treat.

Also some other ideas in this recent thread https://forum.champdogs.co.uk:443/topic_show.pl?dln=552873;pid=1467980.
- By Tectona [gb] Date 19.09.18 09:11 UTC
The Arden grange pate is good. I use primula too, great stuff.

Seen people use silicone refillable tubes too, this kind of thing:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F182310039589
- By poodlenoodle Date 19.09.18 10:26 UTC
Guys, magic thanks

We do use primula, but unfortunately it's only good for exciting things that are 30+ yards away :roll::lol:

It's heartening to hear arden Grange is liked. I'll give it a whirl. Also I remembered there are some polish brands of chicken Pate in the asda near me. I need to look up other polish words (I know polish for chicken but not other meat words) and see what the other tubes may contain.

Storm Ali is driving sideyways rain against my windows so it'll be an indoor training day today. I have discovered both boys react to dogs on TV. So with a clicker, a bag of treats and a recorded episode of you've been framed I can practice engage/disengage in front if the TV. :razz:
- By RozzieRetriever Date 19.09.18 11:27 UTC Upvotes 1
Be careful they don’t ‘engage’ too enthusiastically with the tv! Could be an expensive training session!
- By rachelsetters Date 19.09.18 12:25 UTC Upvotes 1
baked liver is good - cooked long enough it isn't mushy! all of mine go mad for cooked liver!
- By poodlenoodle Date 19.09.18 13:15 UTC
Haha Rozzie the TV is wall mounted above the mantelpiece because both the eldest dog and my son engaged a bit too enthusiastically with it :lol:

Baked liver is appreciated mostly but apparently can't compete with other dogs in the youngest's mind. :/
- By Nikita [gb] Date 19.09.18 13:30 UTC
You can buy squeezy tubes to fill with squishy stuff, perfect for pate for training.  Can't for the life of me think what they're called though!  I'll see if I can find out.
- By furriefriends Date 19.09.18 13:36 UTC
Amazon do them but  I always get in such a mess.  Whatever pages u get even the dog ones make sure the tubes are very soft. Ive had some that needed two hands to get the pate out
- By Nikita [gb] Date 19.09.18 13:54 UTC Upvotes 1
Camping food tubes!  Which is really obvious :roll:  Yes, look for soft silicone ones.
- By poodlenoodle Date 01.10.18 15:52 UTC
Thanks to you all. I will get myself a camping tube ASAP.

It seems to have been the product of hormonal hilarity post castration as the eldest will now work for kibble (they are raw fed so kibble is really rubbish to them) and even his brother, who was refusing all treats and only taking pate in relatively calm moments, was happy with a bit of warm cocktail sausage today.

We're 6 weeks today since the op so hopefully things will be settling down for them chemically now. I was quite worried about the youngster as he seemed really quite nervy suddenly. He never was before or I'd really not have done it, but it must have been the stress of the op and his suture reaction and the hormonal fluctuations as he's back to his happy cheeky self now.

I do wonder what exactly went on the day they got out. Every time we pass the bit of bypass where they were found and caught by my husband they are like racehorse stallions, trotting sideways at the end of their leads, heads and tails up, rigid with excitement. Like they are at their worst when spotting another dog, except there's no other dog, and nowadays they are much less frantic about other dogs anyway. Clearly they remember something very exciting about the place as we walk past there 4 or 5 times a week yet the 25 or 30 intervening times where nothing happened haven't dulled the memory.
- By Goldenfrenzy [gb] Date 01.10.18 18:23 UTC Upvotes 2
Sorry, not really on topic but the "memory" bit reminded my of my old Lab who once found half a sausage cob in a bus shelter we walked past.  She had wolfed it down before I realised what was happening!  She looked in the same bus shelter for months just in case!
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 01.10.18 18:25 UTC Upvotes 1
Sounds like my idiots, every so often one of the local cats is spotted in a driveway or windowsill on our little morning walk, and it takes days for them to calm down and stop barking as the pass the spot, by which time they've probably spotted another cat! :twisted:
- By poodlenoodle Date 01.10.18 18:29 UTC
Goldenfrenzy that did make me laugh :lol::lol::lol:

God only knows what they got up to that night, chasing an in season bitch to a bypass :eek: I don't begrudge them a last hormone driven jolly but if anyone turns up with a box of doodlefoodle puppies (very unlikely although I suppose slip matings occur and fast too) I'll be bloody raging!
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 01.10.18 21:27 UTC Upvotes 4
Daughters Rott did a bit of 'sendaway' training to a traffic cone with a piece of kibble under it ... for months and months after she tried to mug any traffic cone she saw in case there was a kibble on offer :roll::lol:
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