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- By furriefriends Date 04.09.18 09:39 UTC Upvotes 3
Thank lol
I wonder if the rules don't apply to admin as they have ownership of anything posted ?
Possibly some sort of legal.issue here but would be nice for.you to discuss off air so to speak  .
Maybe admin could explain the ins and outs of cross posting by them as it clearly has upset more than one person
- By Cockerbob Date 04.09.18 10:15 UTC Edited 04.09.18 10:22 UTC Upvotes 2
They just need to amend the T&Cs and be absolutely clear and transparent about the policy of cross-posting. AND make it policy to check with the OP before sharing. All this angst could have been avoided had someone dropped me a quick message on the lines of “very interesting topic, could be of use to lots of other people experiencing similar issues, we would like to link it across to our FB page - would this be ok with you?”  Simples. It’s not difficult and is respectful of an individual’s preference re social media exposure.

Again, from T&Cs “For our part we will do our best to protect your privacy and respect your posts.”
- By furriefriends Date 04.09.18 10:20 UTC Upvotes 3
Manners and respect I think it's called:)
- By Cockerbob Date 04.09.18 10:25 UTC
Yep! And as dog owners we’re pretty hot on manners and respect eh? :grin:
- By onetwothreefour Date 04.09.18 11:14 UTC Upvotes 2
I just hope you stick around cockerbob, because you sound like a decent person and we will miss you :cry:
- By Cockerbob Date 04.09.18 11:19 UTC Upvotes 4
Awwwwww thank you. I prob will hang around, if only to keep admins in their toes (joke).
- By RozzieRetriever Date 04.09.18 12:13 UTC Upvotes 5
I like the footnote, maybe that’s a way round it for everyone!
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 04.09.18 23:30 UTC Upvotes 1

> To put things simply, imo, you should walk in season bitches in lead only places where the possibility of coming across an intact Male is unlikely because even if you do he should also be on the lead. Therefore you can cross the road without having to meet it


Totally agree. Before my girl was spayed when she came into season we wound not do our normal walk in fields but stick to the road where all dogs are ment to be on lead and we wouldn't even walk past the entrances to the field. I'd also walk at unsocial hours to avoid bumping into the local walkers.

Reasontly came across two bitches in season (well one of them I suspect she was) both being walked off lead in popular dog walking spots where dogs are not required to be on lead. One of them came charging over to us ignoring her owners shouting come at her and her owner shouts out "its ok she's friendly, she's just in season". Lucky my boy and my friends boy were on leads and I shouted back "we have two entire boys here" and the owner hurried up trying to get her back on lead.
Years ago saw a local owner walker her in season girl off lead in the field chasing after her shouting at other owners to keep their dogs away from her as she was in season!
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 04.09.18 23:43 UTC Upvotes 3

> Crossing the road won't stop a male from picking up the scent of a bitch in season.   Again if people HAVE to continue to exercise their in-season b itches on public land, at the very least I'd hope they take them off in their cars to a quiet area, and even then, don't let them off the lead because when ready to make, the bitch is likely to take off to find a mate.


If the male is out walking on the road it should by law be on the lead so no risk of it running off, if the owner is being irresponsible by waking their dog off lead on the roads that's down to them. If the owner lives on the road anyway then any male passing the bitches house would likely be able to pick up her scent anyway so even by not walking a bitch local males can still pick up her scent. My brothers two certainly know when a house up the roads bitch is in season and that house never walks their dogs at all.
- By Lexy [gb] Date 05.09.18 05:57 UTC

> out walking on the road it should by law be on the lead


The highway code only states dogs(male or female) should be under control..nothing is mentioned regarding leads. Don't forget you would not be able to put a dog(male or female) working sheep or cattle on a lead :wink:
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 05.09.18 07:02 UTC Upvotes 2
I can't believe, or perhaps I can?, the number of people here who seem to think it's necessary, and ok to continue to exercise an in-season bitch, regardless of where.  Yes a dog will scent a bitch closeby in a heavily built up area but walking one from it's home will be laying a trail for any loose dog to find and follow to her home and become a darned nuisance - even if strays may not be so prevalent where you live.  And any entire male being exercised locally WILL pick up the trail even if he's on a lead, which will switch him on.   If people don't want to stop exercising their bitches when in season, fgs get them spayed.  I did with all mine once they were retired as much to stop having to confine them for 3 weeks twice a year (actually every 8 months with mine), as for any other reason.

And that's my last word on the subject. :grin:
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 05.09.18 07:44 UTC Upvotes 3

>The highway code only states dogs(male or female) should be under control..nothing is mentioned regarding leads.


The Highway Code isn't law; the Road Traffic Act 1988 is. :smile:
"Control of dogs on roads.
(1)A person who causes or permits a dog to be on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead is guilty of an offence."

>Don't forget you would not be able to put a dog(male or female) working sheep or cattle on a lead :wink:


They are specifically exempted from the law. " above does not apply to dogs proved—
(a)to be kept for driving or tending sheep or cattle in the course of a trade or business"
- By Merrypaws [gb] Date 05.09.18 07:46 UTC

> any entire male being exercised locally WILL pick up the trail even if he's on a lead, which will switch him on.


... and then the entire male can be identified by the merry cries of "Heel!" "Leave it!" "No, leave it!" as the person walking him tries to counteract nature and get the dog to walk on rather than sample every deposit the bitch has left.  The "fun" can be increased by walking two entire males together, whereupon they will both investigate the alluring scents, try to overmark them and, unless extreme care is taken (on lead, off-lead not a hope), end up peeing on each other as they aim at the same spot :eek:.

Way back up the thread someone suggested using very smelly tasty treats to counter the bitch smell: it doesn't work with mine, nothing smells to them as good as a "girlie" who needs their attentions.  It can however attract other dogs in the vicinity...
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 05.09.18 08:25 UTC Upvotes 1
How true Merrypaws, why would anyone think that a male wouldn't pick up an in-season bitch smell even after rain when dogs are used for scent detection work sometimes in dreadful conditions and on smells much less attractive. My older boy often has "yellow head" after he has spent too long smelling the perfume and the young one can't wait to mark on the spot.  You did make me smile with your description, thank you.
- By Merrypaws [gb] Date 05.09.18 10:13 UTC
Good points on the scent-detection capabilities, Mixedpack, so true.

> My older boy often has "yellow head" after he has spent too long smelling the perfume


Lol! Mine get this from sniffing where longer-legged rivals have peed on bushes nearby.  And then with loppy-lugged breeds the ears have to be washed when they get home as well as the head and paws and any other affected areas.

But then when they're clean and sweet-smelling again, and back to their normal selves I know why I love Spaniels and not a tall, short-haired, prick-eared breed.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 05.09.18 10:45 UTC Upvotes 5

>why would anyone think that a male wouldn't pick up an in-season bitch smell even after rain when dogs are used for scent detection work sometimes in dreadful conditions and on smells much less attractive.


True, and why dogs will be attracted to follow the air-scent to a bitch's home, often across many busy roads, especially if the scent of her season has been concentrated by her not being allowed to leave the property.
Abolutely no reason why she should have to miss out on exercise when she isn't ill; just be sensible about where and when she's taken out.
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