After putting a deposit down on a wolfdog puppy and ‘electronically’ signing a contract, I did more research on this breed. From the breeders stand point they told me that owning a wolfdog in an apartment with a full time job and raising a 2 year old daughter it would work out fine with training. After speaking with several wolfdog breeder and owners I was told that information was false - that a wolfdog needs space. So after realizing I would not be an  appropriate owner for this puppy I felt it was best I back out getting puppy. I have never seen this puppy nor owned in in my possession but the breeders are saying I still have to pay full amount for said puppy. Is this right? We were NOT asking back for a deposit but I do not feel seeing how I was doing right by the puppies future by not taking him in my care that I should be paying a full amount for a puppy I did not own. The contract does not state anywhere that if buyer backs out of contract that the buyer has to pay in full. I never paid completely for said puppy so I do not feel I have ownership of puppy until day of purchasing. Even the owner stated “ownership isn’t until full payment is made” which I have not. I understand the stress of finding a puppy a home but the puppy is just 5 weeks old so it still plenty young and can be easily homed. Because we back out we let them know we were NOT asking for the deposit which even on the contract it does not state that deposit is non refundable but we wanted to help out by letting them keep the deposit of $300.

I’m more so questioning, am I in the wrong? To me a breeder should have not even thought of me - a full time worker with a 2 year old living in an apartment shouldn’t  have been  qualified for owning one of these beautiful wolfdogs. I felt this animal would not be happy with us and was doing what was best for the puppy so he can find a more appropriate home.

Well the whole concept of "wolfdogs" is a mire I don't really want to wade into.

So leaving that bit aside, no, you don't need to pay for the puppy in full. If you have only paid a deposit and are not looking for it to be returned and there was no mention of it in the contract then tell the breeder you no longer want the puppy and she can take you to court at her own expense if she thinks she can make you pay for it anyway.

Consider it a lucky escape and next time research both breed and breeder very carefully before you pay or sign anything.

It seems the breeder is wanting to take this to court or they are just scaring me into sending them money. They keep saying that I breached the contract for ‘damages’. The puppy is under her possession until I completely paid for said animal. I never had said dog in my possession, Ive never even seen this puppy in person so any damages are her liability not mine seeing how I have not made a full payment. I do not become an owner until payment is in full. The breeder is stating she will give a full refund once they rehome said puppy but again I never truly owned it - just put a deposit down which can I am letting them keep!

I understand she frustrated, I’m frustrated by the false information she gave me. This is my first time dealing with a breeder and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience.

It sounds as though you are US- or Canada-based, and your laws will be different to ours in here in the UK. Over here the breeder (who sounds very dubious if s/he thinks a wolfdog is suitable for apartmnt living) wouldn't have a leg to stand on by asking for more money for something you don't intend to buy!

What if anything does it say in the contract regarding damages? Are the puppies still advertised? If so then get a dated copy of the advert now. That way in court, should she get that far, you have evidence that she was still advertising the litter at the time you backed out and thus has no "damages".

I would just tell her to take you to court.

This was in the contract and this is where they think i still owe the money even though I have NOT seen nor touched this puppy.

DAMAGES Breeder shall have the right, upon the breach of this agreement by Owner, to sue for actual damages, or request equity remedies including but not being limited to regaining ownership of said puppy. In addition to such rights breeder  may have by law or equity, if Owner has breached this agreement, Owner shall pay, as and for liquidated damages, an amount of money equivalent to the value of three puppies (said value being $1000 per pup at the time of execution of this agreement). The value of the litters and liquidated damages shall be determined at the time of the Owner’s breach. Owner agrees to pay all legal fees should breeder. Need to seek legal damages.

Even after informing the owners that I shall not be buying this puppy due to false information and wishing the best for the puppy to find an appropriate owner they believe I’m still considered as the owner even though I have NOT paid in full for puppy.

You have had a lucky escape: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=The+tragedy+of+wolfdogs&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SAVV_enGB549&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=c8FkWumYDO-Ltgfp662wAg&gws_rd=ssl

As your in the USA I would check what the law says re purchases of goods, as under law that is what a dog is same as a car for example.

the while concept of wolfdogs is wrong anyway. So this would not be a responsible breeder giving you such dumb information/advice.

We have taken many thousands of years to adapt the wolf ancestor into canis familiaris, so that by and large it's behaviour and instincts are suitable for living with man.

To then cross it with a wild descendant of the wolf ancestor is undoing all that domestication.

To then expect such an animal to live in a very artificial environment, without it's pack is just foolhardy, and dangerous, setting up the poor animal to fail, and possibly putting your children in danger when the higher levels of prey drive are accidentally triggered.

I would say a massive lucky escape and personally I wouldn't be putting a deposit on any further puppies until you've actually seen them in the flesh are are totally happy with how they are being raised, the mother and the breeder too.

In this case I would be seeking out a lawyer because most posters on here are UK based however we do have many from around the world but the knowledge or us civil law will be limited at best.

I would consult a lawyer. From what I can see the damages section gives her the right to sue for actual damages and remedy equity. A right which the law in most places affords everyone. You might enquire as to what her "actual damages" are. If you found the litter on craigslist then it's free to advertise. If she is still advertising the litter she does not need to readvertise. If she's turned people away as all are sold then she has a list of people waiting. But consult a lawyer.

People are awful.

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1....After putting a deposit down on a wolfdog puppy and ‘electronically’ signing a contract,

2.......I have never seen this puppy nor owned in in my possession but the breeders are saying I still have to pay full amount for said puppy. Is this right?

It is the 'contract' you are dealing with not the fact it is a puppy. >In law dogs (and other animals eg horses) are legally classed as property, as regards specificaly No's 1 & 2 lines above, and nothing else in your post the breeders would be right.
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I was talking about UK law (property) didn't know you were in US till after I posted it

In the US animals are considered property as well.

Have you tried posting on a forum based in your country. Both the forums you have posted this on are UK based. Perhaps you could contact a lawyer in the USA

I agree, in the UK there's no way you would need to pay anything back beyond the deposit.  But UK and US law may differ and you might be best seeking some advice from knowledgeable dog forums or Facebook groups, in the US. 

To address the other issues:

Wolfdogs are a bad idea, full stop.  If you like the appearance, think about breeds bearing similarities which have no 'wolf' in them - like GSDs, Malamutes, huskies etc...

HOWEVER, owning any dog at all whilst you live in an apartment and work full time and have a 2yo daughter, is definitely not something I recommend.  As a breeder, I will not sell to homes where all adults work full time away from the home.  And I don't home to homes with children under the age of 8, and am cautious about homes until children are 14+.  The reason for this is partly the number of things that can go wrong between dog and child and the difficulty of supervising every single encounter, but even more so because I want homes which will 'do something' with their dogs - train them towards a dog sport, for example - and I've found that in homes with children, the kids tend to come first.  (With music lessons, after school swimming/karate/badminton/mongolian nose flute playing.)  There are some exceptions and some homes where the kids are actually better trainers than the adults - but they are way in the minority and it's too much of a risk for me.

I'd be less concerned about the apartment, to be honest - since dogs need your time way more than they need space where they live.  If you have adequate time, you can take a dog out to suitable locations for sufficient exercise daily.  And most dogs just sleep the rest of the day, if they are adequately exercised at other times.  Our first dog was a high energy breed and we lived in a small one-up, one-down house with a patio for a yard - but we drove out to the country every day and exercised her out there, and attended training classes about 4x a week all over the area(!).

Instead of a dog, I'd suggest considering getting a couple of kittens, who can entertain each other whilst you're away from the house... (By the way, it is recommended that kittens are homed in pairs for this reason - it is NOT a good idea to get two puppies at once - just to clarify that!)

Couldnt agree more.  Sorry if this sounds harsh but living in an apartment AND working full time I wouldnt even consider getting a dog let alone a puppy.

I would like to firstly say, thank you ALL for your feed back and appreciate what everyone has said. I do believe at this time due to the lifestyle I have - at this time a dog probably wouldn’t be a good idea. In 2017 we lost our beloved dog due to old age and we were looking for an companionship for my cat - who believe it or not LOVED that dog. He isn’t to fond of other cats, even kittens. Again tho I appreciated everyone’s feed back. Thank you so much!