Hello all,
I was an active member of these boards many years ago and now I am back.
We lost our 14 year old gorgeous cocker spaniel and have plans to get another pooch. We have found one that we are extremely interested in. Ticks all the boxes for us from the excellent reputable breeder to current owners testimonials etc..However and this is the crux of the problem...we are going away this Christmas- typically the first time ever...for 4 nights. The place is dog friendly and secure and we were taking both our dogs with us. Puppy was born on 17th October so won't be 10 weeks old until Dec 26th. I am wondering if she could have her vaccinations done slightly earlier so that she has had her 2nd one done before we go away on the 23rd December.
I am getting differing information from the internet as to what vaccination schedules are used here in the UK.
The puppy is down south...we are up north...so it will be different vet being used to complete the vaccinations.
Can anyone help ?
Has anyone done this?
I cannot risk the health and safety of the puppy by taking it into an environment where I don't know which animals have been there ( i.e. The holiday home garden )
Thanks in advance.
Liz

Immunity and vaccinations don't really work in the way you've described.

After a vaccination - assuming that there are no maternal antibodies present - it will take a further 5 days (at least) for immunity to occur.  So vaccinating a puppy on 23rd and before you go away, is not going to see them protected by 26th.  You don't just get the dog vaccinated and it's instantaneously protected.

Secondly, the vast majority of puppies are fully protected after the first vaccination at 8wks.  There are some that are not even protected after 10wks, though - due to the presence of maternal antibodies.  No one knows when these will wear off, for each puppy - which is why many vets and vaccination manufacturers will insist that the 2nd vaccination is done at 12wks or later.  In the US, pups usually have a 3rd round of jabs at 16wks as even at 12wks there are a weeny proportion of pups which are not protected.

Finally, when you say:

>The puppy is down south...we are up north...so it will be different vet being used to complete the vaccinations.

Does this mean that the breeder is giving the first vaccination?  Do take care of this:  Many vets will insist that both vaccinations given are the SAME BRAND and if your vet uses a different brand to the breeder's vet, your vet may insist on restarting the vaccinations from scratch so that both are of the same brand.  That then means your pup ends up with 3 vaccinations.

Frankly, I find all this 'give the pup 2 or 3 vaccinations because we don't know when they work' stuff (since we don't know when maternal antibodies wear off) to be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.  Vaccinations given whilst maternal immunity is in place do nothing to achieve immunity or protect the puppy yet come with all the risks that any vaccination carries.  In a cost-benefit analysis, I can't see that it is worthwhile to do this unless you live in an area with a lot of unvaccinated dogs or an otherwise high risk area and can't risk any period with a lack of protection existing at all. 

If it were me, I would ask the breeder NOT to give the first vaccination (and explain that my own vet will disregard it and restart vaccinations from scratch), and I would then take the pup for the first vaccination just before 9wks.  There is a much better chance of the first vaccination at 9wks protecting a pup than at 8wks, so even if you took the pup with you on holiday after just the 1st vaccination, the pup is more likely to be protected.  I would also think about all the socialisation experiences involved in coming away and staying with you - over and above worrying about the pup catching parvo from rented accommodation.  Do remember that vaccinations only protect puppies against parvo, lepto and distemper - only those 3 diseases.  The last case of parvo where I live, was one case 5 years ago.  The last case of distemper, was 10 years ago.  The chances of running into these 3 specific diseases in rented accommodation, are so slim.... And, as I said, if you can delay the first jab, so it's given at least 5 days before you go, it's likely the pup will be protected by that. 

2nd vaccination would then be at 11wks, but you might want to delay to 12wks to help increase the chances of it taking effect.

Thank you for that excellent reply.
I am so out of date with this puppy vaccinating thing.
So, if we give her her first vaccination around the 18th December does that mean she can physically go out and about ,walk on the ground etc 5 days after or will she just be confined to the garden and being carried when we are out?
I probably sound really dim..

Oooh are you opening a can of worms with this vaccination thing.   From MY standpoint, and I have been told I'm wrong, we didn't externally vaccinate until our puppies, those we kept from our occasional litters, were 10 weeks.   From where I came from (ions ago ) it was always said that mum's immunity from the colostrum lasted until approx. 5 weeks after which it gradually dropped away until it was felt that external vaccination could be safely given, and would 'take' from around 8 weeks.   If we ever let a puppy go to a knowledgeable home (the only time we did this) it would go after 8 weeks and at that point we'd advise the new owners take the opinion of their vet.   Done too soon and it simply won't 'take'.

I think the best you can do is be advised by your vet (I hear screams from others!!).   Or maybe take the puppy back to her breeder to board for the time you'll be away - and actually for such a young puppy who you won't have had for that long, that might be the best, less upsetting generally for the puppy - or don't have the puppy until after Christmas!!!

And don't forget, puppies aren't fully protected until they've had ALL their vaccination shots.

>puppies aren't fully protected until they've had ALL their vaccination shots

This is simply not true, as proven by the bazillions of people who choose to wait until 12 or 14wks to have just one vaccination and subsequently titre test their puppy and find their puppy is fully immunised after just one vaccination.

But yes, OP, you are definitely opening a can of worms! 

There is no 'right' answer to your question, it is just about evaluating different risks and the way you want to play it.  Me being me, and having raised lots of puppies by taking them out and about everywhere from first vaccination onwards (just not going to parks or places frequented by many other dogs), I would delay the first vaccination to be as late as possible - so it's at least 5 days before you go away.  That should mean that most pups are fully protected from that one jab.  Of course, there will be a weeny proportion of pups not protected by it - but you would need to 1. have a pup not protected by a first jab at almost 9wks and 2. also be staying somewhere that has previously had a dog with distemper or parvo staying there, for there to be a risk.  I'd say the chances of that are pretty slim and are outweighed by the socialisation benefits of coming away with you for 4 days.  (Far more dogs are PTS due to behavioural problems than the number that catch parvo or distemper due to lack of protection from vaccinations...!).  After all, we could all not cross roads due to the risk of being run over - but we decide the benefits of crossing roads outweigh the risks of getting knocked over...

If you decide you don't want to take the risk, then what MamaBas suggests - pup going back to breeder for 4 days - sounds like a good idea.  Although if the breeder is in the south and you're in the north, that might not be possible.  I wouldn't delay taking the pup till after your holiday because you can get lots of socialisation done whilst the pup is with you and before you go away - the socialisation window starts to close around 12wks...

>So, if we give her her first vaccination around the 18th December does that mean she can physically go out and about ,walk on the ground etc 5 days after or will she just be confined to the garden and being carried when we are out?

If you're going on 26th, I wouldn't give the 1st jab earlier than 20th.  After that personally, I would carry her most places unless you are in a low-dog traffic area.  It's not very practical to walk places with a little puppy anyway, since they want to explore the world and go at their own pace - so if you are needing to get places, you'll need to carry her.  I would not put her down in public parks, on pavements or anywhere that strange dogs are highly likely to have toileted.  But I would put her down in, say, B&Q, (!) or places where dogs are unlikely to have toileted.  I'd also take her into dog friendly pubs and cafes and keep her on your lap.  If you are walking somewhere that few dogs go - like a walk in the middle of no where or a field - personally, I'd put her down.  But all this is not different to if you had her at home - you're doing the same thing, but whilst on holiday with her.

> <br />This is simply not true, as proven by the bazillions of people who choose to wait until 12 or 14wks to have just one vaccination and subsequently titre test their puppy and find their puppy is fully immunised after just one vaccination.

I'm sorry, and I did say this is opening a can of worms but I am not wrong in what I believe.  In this particiular case, regardless of what 'bazillions of people do', or don't do, this puppy will be barely 10 weeks.  Not 12 or 14 weeks.   And frankly I can't accept that all these people who do externally vaccinate at 8 weeks, for eg. and then repeat 2 or maybe 3 weeks later, are wasting their money!   Yes if the pup is taken out and about after just one shot, it 'may' be okay but I suggest that if there's a local Parvo flare up, for eg., then said puppy may not be so lucky.

As for this socialisiting/fear window ....of course this may be breed related but our puppies didn't see tons of people until they were old enough to start Ringcraft, and they had no temperament/socialising problems!!

By all means rely on titre testing but equally this isn't always accurate.

And so the subject rolls on.   Bottom line - I do what has always worked, for me.   Others are entitled to do what works for them.   But that doesn't mean to say either is 'WRONG'.

ps   If your puppy came from a distance away, taking him back to his breeder would be difficult.   But then again, why not leave him with his breeder (and she could always do some 'socialising' if needed) until after the holidays are over and you are done visiting?

Thanks all. Wow This  vaccination issue is contentious
Ideal and best case scenario would be if the breeder could keep her and the breeder has said she would HOWEVER the breeder is on a waiting list for an operation and has heard it could be the week before Christmas....so I cannot rely on pup staying with her and do need a plan b!

I spoke to my vet who recommended the VERSICAN dhppi jab that can be given at 6 weeks and then again 9.

I would be interested to hear what people feel about this vaccination before obviously going ahead.

MamaBas, you said:

>puppies aren't fully protected until they've had ALL their vaccination shots

Nothing about the age of the puppies or how many shots, you just made that statement.  That was what I responded to.

As for socialisation:  Breeders frequently have many other dogs, and puppies meet those other dogs and learn a lot about interacting with dogs in that way.  Pet owners frequently own either no other dogs or just one other.  It's not comparable.  I'm a trainer and behaviourist and I've seen the effects of poor socialisation first hand - I do on a daily basis, and it isn't worth the risk IMO.  Hound breeds also tend to be quite robust and forgiving of less than optimal socialisation.  The same isn't true of other breeds.

>Ideal and best case scenario would be if the breeder could keep her

I completely disagree.  Do some more reading on socialisation and what a puppy should have experienced by the age of 12 weeks and you will see why this is a bad idea.  Is the breeder going to provide all these experiences for the pup?  If so - great.  If not, bad idea.
https://www.longmonthumane.org/sites/default/files/media/attachments/Puppy_handoutfinal.pdf
http://www.apbc.org.uk/articles/puppysocialisation1
http://www.apbc.org.uk/articles/puppysocialisation2
http://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/puppy-socialization-stop-fear-before-it-starts

>I spoke to my vet who recommended the VERSICAN dhppi jab that can be given at 6 weeks and then again 9.

Also a bad idea.  A puppy's immune system at 6wks old is very immature, and the vaccination would highly likely not work at all due to maternal antibodies.  So you have all the risk and no benefit.  Putting more vaccinations into a puppy does not make them MORE immunised - a dog either IS or IS NOT immunised for something.  They are not 'more' immunised, the more shots they have had.  If you're not getting the pup till 8wks, the pup is not at risk from 6-8wks as will be with the breeder - no different to any other puppy - so why have any vaccinations before 8wks anyway??  All I was suggesting is delaying the first vaccination from 8wks until 8.5wks - 5 days before you go away.  For the sake of 3 days, I really don't think it's worth the risk of an additional shot at 6wks into an immature immune system.

Please do not vaccinate before 10 weeks & then only after titre testing for maternal antibodies. No matter what some experienced owners on here believe there is no set in stone time by which maternal immunity ends & at least by titre testing you will know if there are any memory cells in your puppy's blood stream. This is fact not belief.

A 10 week old puppy's immune system should be able to assimilate vaccines, except Lepto 2 or 4 which I would never give as it is NOT a core vaccine & also causes more & worse reactions than all other vaccines. Even in the manufacturer's trials dogs died after being given Lepto 4

Yes, I agree with Tommee on not giving lepto 2 or 4 at all.  And also that there is no time by which you know for sure that maternal antibodies will have gone. 

Given that, you can either wait until you know they will definitely have gone before vaccinating.  (Most manufacturers will say that a puppy over the age of 12wks only needs one vaccination - so it's good enough for them...)  Or you can give more frequent vaccinations to try to 'catch' the right time for your pup.  But if you do this, all the vaccinations given before maternal antibodies wear off, are not doing anything at all and yet carry all the risks of any vaccination. 

You could titre test, but I think it's best to do this AFTER the vaccination to be sure it took, rather than before to check for maternal antibodies.

Titre testing shows antibodies, it cannot show memory cells. This is information from my vet who believes in minimum vaccination and titre testing. It is unfortunate that it doesn't show memory cells as this is how it not always accurate, a dog could still be immune due to memory cells but titre would show it may not be immune.

Antibodies not memory cells don't know why I put that doh senior moment !!!

Just before I leave this   I'd not do any external vaccinating at 6 weeks unless for some reason the litter didn't take mum's colostrum so may have no natural immunity.   If the litter did take mum's colostrum, early vaccinating won't take and is pointless, apart from giving a false sense of 'security!

I'm not a vet (and I wonder how many here are?) but just go by what's been tried and tested with me and mine, since 1972.  Fwiw.

Thanks all. After considering all this invaluable information I have decided not to get the puppy vaccinated early after all. I can get a puppy sling or whatever if we go out while away. We already have a doggy pram from our rainbow bridge girl.
We will give her her first vaccination when she is 9 weeks old.
Thanks again. Liz

Good, I think that's the best decision!

I'm gad you've decided to wait a while, Rubels1968.  Please look into it further. Nobivac DHP says only 1 needed @10 weeks but I would wait until 14-16 weeks and titre test 4 weeks later - then nothing further for life.  Pip had his last DHP @ 10 weeks and titre tested at 56 weeks. He had high circulating antibodies on all.  I do think this was due to his baby brother just having had his vacs - that shed and so challenged Pip's immune response.

> then nothing further for life

This worries me - and I have to say also confuses me too.   Mine are now, having had their repeat boosters 12 months after the full puppy set, on 3 yearly boosters, other than the one for Lepto which I am reliably told, dips during a 12 month period and should be boostered annually (plus of course rabies, where legally required).   I have never, however, boostered mine, other than rabies when living abroad, after 7 years and I'm now doing the same with my current two who are now 8 and 9 years.   If you have rats around, and who doesn't in the UK!, I'd not risk leaving out the Lepto booster, but I don't use Lepto 4.

Most boarding kennels now accept dogs on 3 yearly boosters, but not all!!   Worth remembering if you are likely to be using a boarding kennel.

MamaBas, that is what the vaccine manufacturers tell you to do - full vaccination every 3 years and vaccinate for lepto and parainfluenza annually in between.  Yet there are studies which prove that the main vaccinations - parvo and distemper and hepatitis - last for at least 7 years.  We can't measure memory cells, but it's likely that they last for life.  Unfortunately, it involves thinking outside the box, independently researching evidence and not just believing what your vet tells you.

Just as human vaccinations given to babies are not repeated annually for life.

Unfortunately when it comes to vaccinations for dogs, there is no powerful body like the WHO agitating for what is best, and it comes down even more than human health does, to profit:  It is in the vaccine manufacturers' interests to sell more vaccines and NOT to carry out (expensive) studies proving that their vaccines last longer than 3 years.  Why on earth would they do that?  What's in it for them?  Lose money carrying out the study and then lose more money when it's proven that fewer vaccines are needed??  Far better to recommend that everyone gives a full vaccination every 3 years and not carry out more research.  And without an independent body to do just that...

Meanwhile vets just follow what it says on the vaccine manufacturer's vials and are afraid of nasty legal things if they don't.

Unfortunately without further research, we don't know EXACTLY how long vaccines last - but there is research to suggest they last at least 7 years (excluding lepto and PI). 

What to do after that, the jury is still out on:  You could titre test, but that won't measure memory cells, only antibodies circulating in the blood.  If the dog hasn't been exposed to the diseases, they will not have mounted an immune response and have circulating antibodies - and these diseases are actually quite rare now in most part of the UK, so the chances of a dog not coming across them in the environment and not having circulating antibodies as a result, are quite high.  So you could get a result telling you to vaccinate, when you don't need to.  Arguably still better than just vaccinating blindly every year and you will avoid most vaccinations.  But if you are going to titre, then how often?  You could get a positive one year and then a 0 the next year, so are you then going to end up titre testing annually from 7 years??  And blood draws are not the nicest thing for most dogs...

You could just give a booster at 7 or 8 years - but if the dog is immune, you can't make them MORE immune:  A dog either is or is not immune, and putting more vaccination in there doesn't 'improve' anything, it just carries all the risks of any vaccination without any of the benefits. 

Or you can just not vaccinate and rely on memory cells activating an immune response if the animal is exposed to the disease.  There is no way to measure the presence of memory cells.  Seeing this approach is effective in humans, who receive a vaccination as babies and children which lasts for life, I am not sure why we are so reluctant to accept it for dogs... The immune systems of mammals are not vastly different. 

Hence why many of us give nothing further for life.

"I'd not risk leaving out the Lepto booster, but I don't use Lepto 4."

I had started a new thread to discuss this, but, seeing as though this is here...

Regarding the above quote, can you tell me, if you are concerned about your dogs getting lepto from rats, why are you happy to give them the lept 2 vaccine rather than the lepto 4 vaccine?

Please note that I am not trying to be arguementative, I am looking for justification of my own decision whether to vaccinated for lepto, or not.

On the subject of vets and vaccinations, this article came up today in my FB newsfeed:  http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/vets-on-vaccines/

Brilliant and thorough post 1234. I only disagree with this passage :
Meanwhile vets just follow what it says on the vaccine manufacturer's vials and are afraid of nasty legal things if they don't.
My own, and many other vets don't seem to read the instructions eg Nobivac DHP says only one needed after 10 weeks yet so many insist on 2 - or restarting the course (.?)  in adults!!

>Brilliant and thorough post 1234.

Why, thank you

>My own, and many other vets don't seem to read the instructions eg Nobivac DHP says only one needed after 10 weeks yet so many insist on 2 - or restarting the course (.?)  in adults!!

I've heard of that, it's very shocking...

> if you are concerned about your dogs getting lepto from rats, why are you happy to give them the lept 2 vaccine rather than the lepto 4 vaccine?

1.  Because I have heard about 'problems' with Lepto 4  but -
2.  Because my vet uses Lepto 2 - which is the biggest reason why. 

My vets also continue to use lepto 2, not lepto 4.

So do many other vets the UK over. 

If lepto 4 is as safe as it's claimed to be, I don't really understand why this is - why not inoculate for 4 strains of something rather than 2 - if both are equally safe?  Surely the only answer is that even vets doubt that lepto 4 is safe - otherwise it would be used throughout the UK by now and lepto2 would be obsolete....

Well, at the risk of putting my head above the parapet so to speak, I would like to add my two pennoth.

If you read Nobivac Manufactures leaflet (protocol) for DHP for a puppy 10 weeks or older, just ONE vaccination is required for full protection, not two.

Personally I wait until 12 to 14 weeks as my puppies are small breeds and can be carried. They are also usually with me in the car, and I have a 'puppy buggy' so they get used to being out and about from a young age.

I never give Lepto, as the last puppy that had this died a horrible death from encephalitis, and the Lepto was blamed. And as there are over 200 serovars and the vaccines only has a 3 to 9 month protection at the best, (if at all) I consider it more dangerous than the likely hood of any of my dogs contracting the disease as we live a low risk lifestyle.

Funnily my vet uses Lepto 2 for puppies, and Lepto 4 for adult dogs.... These are default settings though, he will do what you ask if you ask him.

> Funnily my vet uses Lepto 2 for puppies, and Lepto 4 for adult dogs.

Interestingly, and also putting my head above the parapet (!) because we have rats (2 that are seen - such a shame they are so 'pretty') running around after what the birds drop from the feeders to the point I'm thinking of stopping ALL bird feeding - I just had my two in for Lepto vaccination.  Unfortunately as I always do by around 8 years of age, I'd dropped their boosters which were due back in February so apparently they have to be restarted (hum).  I asked specifically for Lepto 2 (as done previously) and was met with a rather pointed comment that they'd had 'no problems with Lepto 4'.  They were given Lepto 2 and I have to go back for a second injection in 3 weeks time.

Isn't it the fact that puppies are given a full set and (UK) boostered 2 weeks later to be sure the first set took?

Oh and re titres.   I talked to him about this and was told that it could be the titres showed something the first time, but a second test would/could be different.   Confused.com.   And I did mention the 'furious arguments' going on on this forum!   Eyes to heaven (him).

Re titre mamabas .what your vet is saying is correct and is why many vets say titres are only a guide as they can vary from day to day .
titres only show if antibodies are circulating but no antibodies doesnt mean no immunity only that the body hasn't been recently challenged.immuity is also in the memory cells ( cell mediated immunity ) and thus can't be tested .this is where faith I supposed comes in. If u have vaccinated then by titre proved there are circulating antibiodies later as an owner or vet  u are left to decide  either that the cell mediated immunity will produce new antibodies as needed or revaccinate so u can see the antibodies again .for alot of us that means taking the risk of over vaccination.  Lepto is about more tricky as u can't titre but need to do a mat test which is not usually done apart from diagnosis of the disease

Just to add I'm not going to titre test.   I've had the Lepto vac. done and that will be that!   I'd only have had that done because of the flippin' rats.   I saw 4 rats out there this morning so ALL feeders have now come in and will remain in for some weeks now.   Hopefully said rats will move on.   The local Council has stopped doing free vermin control other than for commercial property so I phoned one of the local companies who quoted me £150 + VAT to come out twice.   I simply can't afford that and I'm not sure I want dead, poisoned rats lying around out there in our small garden either.   I know God's crittas have to live but they can go live somewhere else.

MamaBas, go on Amazon and look up Rentokill's Pasta Bait.  We tried all kinds of stuff but the rats wouldn't touch it.  Wouldn't go in humane cages even with tasty stuff in them.  Pest control guy was useless and wanted to charge a fortune.  But the Pasta Bait did the trick.  It comes in little blue sachets and you don't need to open them - you just stick them in crevices around where the rats are, every night.  Keep putting more out until you see they stop taking it. 

To kill a dog, they would need to eat about 2kg of pasta bait - which is pretty impossible - even the rats have to eat it for 2-3 meals, not just one, to do the trick.  However, I did keep my dogs on lead in the garden whilst I was doing it.  Takes about 5-7 days.  I don't like to use poison but rats don't just 'move on' - they nest and stay....and breed....

PS - even though we had rats whilst we had puppies (and a run in the garden for the pups), all pups were fine.  None of my dogs were vaccinated against lepto and all were fine.... People get WAY too worried about lepto, and there are effective ABs for it.  But that's a whole other subject.

> the Pasta Bait did the trick.  It comes in little blue sachets and you don't need to open them - you just stick them in crevices around where the rats are, every night

But what about the corpses?   This is what worries me re my two hounds, more than anything.   Still I'll take a look (on Amazon).   Got to be better than paying Pest Control!!

We didn't see any bodies.  Rats go back into their holes and die in there.  But even if there were a body out, because a dog needs to ingest so much of it, it wouldn't cause any harm.  They'd probably have to eat 55000 rats or something to ingest enough of it - because it was about 2kg of pure poison and I've no idea how much would be in one rat, but no more than one sachet...

Under normal circumstances the poison would not harm a dog but I nearly lost my bitch during a routine spay operation three years ago. She wouldn't stop haemorrhaging during the operation and following blood tests the vets thought that she had either picked up a very small amount of poison somewhere or been nosing around a poisoned rat. Luckily they did manage to stop the bleeding but it was a close run thing.

The place is dog friendly

Well dont forget your puppy will not be house trained yet and that hotel carpets can be quite expensive. To be honest any holiday is supposed to be a time to relax & enjoy, by the sound of your going to nothing but 'ifs, 'buts' 'maybes' & ''Oh Sh*t he's done it on the carpet again''!.......From a puppy's point of view.............He's just been seperate from every living being he's ever known, gone to strange territory for the very first time ever and find himself surrounded by 2 excited stressed out beings he has never seen before & a brain so small & inexperienced..........change something of the choices availabe!!!

PS.........as this place is dog friendly 'now' I suggest you inform the owners that your keeping a pup which has had no house training yet & ask them if they will accept it non house trained, it could have repercussions for others who's dogs are if you botch it up!

I do like the "Ignore" button on this forum, by the way.

Agree :O

Well I’d just like to say we had a  very successful 5 night stay away. The puppy was 9 1/2 weeks...she settled brilliantly...slept in her cage as she does at home through the night ...she sat by the back door when wanting to go out to toilet...we had maybe 4 accidents during the time we were there and they were teeny tiny wees. The garden was puppy proof...there were enough of us to ensure she didn’t get up to any mischief in the house itself. From a socialisation point of view it was fantastic. She went to different beaches every day...plus 1 week after first vaccination we even let her have a little run for a couple of minutes on the beach after the tide had gone out and she loved it. So many different smells, different noises, different people. Kids on scooters...other dogs running around...people in funny hats...the sound of the sea..crashing waves..
Yes we were all able to watch her closely and  all in all it wasn’t the stressful situation I thought it would be.
She is a cracking little puppy - funny, fiesty and seems quite clever and doesn’t seem fazed by her little trip away at all.

So pleased it's all working out for u . sounds like she and u had a great time .always good to hear how things go

According to the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA), puppies should be vaccinated every two to four weeks between the ages of 6 and 16 weeks with the final puppy vaccines given no earlier than 16 weeks of age. All puppies should receive the core vaccines of canine distemper, adenovirus 2, canine parvovirus, parainfluenza virus, and rabies virus.

“During this critical time, maternal antibody from the mother can interfere with a long-term immune response, so the idea is to keep boosting until the pet's immune system is capable of creating its own long-term protection,” says Dr. Jessica Vogelsang, San Diego veterinarian and author of All Dogs Go to Kevin.

Other vaccines that are considered to be non-core or optional—for example Bordetella, Lyme disease, and leptospirosis—should be administered based on what you decide with your vet, says Dr. Lisa Lippman, a veterinarian in New York City. Important factors include your dog’s lifestyle, breed risk factors, and where you live.

“Kennel cough is good for breeds that have flat faces, who are more at risk for serious infections like pneumonia,” Lippman says, and also for dogs who have a lot of contact with other dogs. “Leptospirosis is a bacterial infection carried in the urine of mammals that dogs contract if they come in contact with standing water that an infected animal has peed in. That, along with Lyme disease, is a vaccination that’s good for dogs who might spend a lot of time outdoors.”

>All puppies should receive the core vaccines of canine distemper, adenovirus 2, canine parvovirus, parainfluenza virus, and rabies virus.

In the UK the core vaccines are distemper, hepatitis and parvovirus, with leptospirosis recommended (because the whole of the UK is a leptospirosis region) but controversial. The first vaccination can be given at 6 weeks if the pups are at particular risk (unvaccinated dam, or orphaned puppies) but waiting till 8 weeks+ is better. The second injection (if the first is given before 10 weeks, or the leptospirosis component is being given) must be given between 2 and 4 weeks after the first, and no earlier than 10 weeks.

And Dr Jean Dodds advises - this Dr Dodds is a world renown veterinarian