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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Retained placenta. (locked)
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 14.02.17 20:31 UTC
Can you tell me why some vets leave placentas when performing a ceasarian ? Having so many problems, my bitch is still acting in second stage labour.As yet not seen any placentas only black blood.
- By JeanSW Date 14.02.17 22:50 UTC
I would be phoning the OOH vet as an emergency.
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 15.02.17 03:14 UTC
I was told they have left placentas they will come away within twenty four hours. Of course bitch is still in labour. Not ever had this before, wondered why is this the modern way. It was a straightforward elected c section. Only performed as I have slippped a disc and thought it safer. I was told she had a shot of oxytocin,
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 15.02.17 03:14 UTC
I was told they have left placentas they will come away within twenty four hours. Of course bitch is still in labour. Not ever had this before, wondered why is this the modern way. It was a straightforward elected c section. Only performed as I have slippped a disc and thought it safer. I was told she had a shot of oxytocin,
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 15.02.17 08:54 UTC Upvotes 1
I've had quite a few Sections but have never been aware that ANYTHING had been left inside - nor any problems with that.    If your bitch isn't right, get her straight back to your vet, I'd suggest.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 15.02.17 09:55 UTC Upvotes 2
No I have had a few sections and they always take everything, In fact they never break the cords until the whole puppy and sac is out. Then once all out breaking the cord. I would have to question this. Seems very strange to me.
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 15.02.17 10:44 UTC
Dreadful night, took her to the vet this morning for another shot of oxytocin. I was told placentas were left as they could not be picked off. Would have to be tugged and worried about heamorage.
Then told seventy five swabs were used, they can only account for seventy four !!. Hopefully ended up anywhere than in her abdomen..
Never think ceasarian is the easy option.
- By Goldenmum [gb] Date 15.02.17 12:29 UTC
No it is not an easy option.  Seek a second opinion this situation sounds awful!  I'd have thought that if the cesarean became that complicated that they would have spayed the bitch.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 15.02.17 13:23 UTC

> In fact they never break the cords until the whole puppy and sac is out. Then once all out breaking the cord. I would have to question th


Now I think about it - and it's only rarely that I've actually been there through out the Section - this is what should happen.   Nothing is left behind so there is very little post-surgery discharge.   Sometimes vets don't get it right, as I discovered to my horror with a vet we used after we came back to the UK...................
- By JeanSW Date 15.02.17 15:46 UTC

> get her straight back to your vet, I'd suggest.


Definitely.
- By monkeyj [gb] Date 15.02.17 16:33 UTC

> It was a straightforward elected c section. Only performed as I have slippped a disc and thought it safer.


As in the bitch could have given birth naturally, but you opted for C-section because thought it safer? How could a major surgery ever be safer?.... :eek:
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 15.02.17 18:44 UTC
With a slipped disc, you are not only in pain, cannot bend stand.. As it is I am crawling around no on my bottom trying to look after my dogs.
So given the circumstances it would be totaly irresponsible to Allow a bitch to
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 15.02.17 18:45 UTC
To whelp without someone being able to assist f she gets in trouble..that person being me..
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 15.02.17 18:52 UTC
Agree with other comments. When my girl had her C-section, after giving birth naturally to 7 pups, the vet removed all the retained placentas during the operation. After dealing with my last litter while recovering from a completely broken left ankle, I can understand why you took your decision. I whelped my girl on a double bed but looking after her and the litter put my recovery back by weeks.
- By monkeyj [gb] Date 15.02.17 19:01 UTC Edited 15.02.17 19:04 UTC
@YUIOrough stuff apologies and not meaning to jump on your back when you are already in trouble... I just didn't know vets were even allowed/disposed to do c-section when it might not be in the best interest of the dog. I do know what it means to be alone looking after the dogs and worrying what to do if stuff happens.... just would have thought there could have been other options, e.g. arrange for a vet/nurse to do a house call should it be necessary, or be there for the whole birth if necessary, surely much safer and bet even cheaper! option than surgery... just really sorry for the dog, they shouldn't suffer because of us people...
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 16.02.17 02:06 UTC
I anticapted problems, in fact posted for advice, she was large and having br breathing problems at six weeks pregnant. She is a medium .sized breed. So for not able to whelp her upstairs. Apart from the fact I was not mobile, or able to drive. I thought It could end of his way. Would rather elect a ceasesarin than take a bitch in exhausted with secondary school inertia.
My question was regarding retained placentas as not ever happened to m before.
- By monkeyj [gb] Date 16.02.17 05:28 UTC Edited 16.02.17 05:39 UTC
Yes I read you earlier post, and also that the advice you were given was a clear "NO" to a cesarean. And I believe that was because whatever problems you anticipated may well never have occurred. You yourself explicitly stated in this thread that the surgery was elective due to your health difficulties, and confirmed that the bitch could have given birth naturally. And it is to this that I replied.

The forum is read by many people some of whom might be in a similar situation to you. And you continue to insist that putting the bitch through the major surgery in these circumstances was a safer option, and even "responsible" thing to go! Well in my view far from it, it was a wrong thing to do, and I would hate to learn a future owner of my puppy may one day read your "advice" and follow your footsteps. That is why I replied.

I'll shut up now as I've expressed my view, and I do hope that your bitch survives and returns to her full health after this ordeal.
- By YUIOrough stuff Date 16.02.17 09:07 UTC Upvotes 4
I have a breed  that are prone to whelping problems, even if you manage to have a free whelping line , it is l always at the back of my mind .
I don't have a crystal ball.. always think it could end that way. I am an experienced breeder, I don't know your breed. Or why  am justifying myself. You are very judgemental  No wonder people don't ask fo advice on this forum,
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Retained placenta. (locked)

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