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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Stud dog Certificate
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 08.09.16 07:32 UTC
I have just had a request from someone in Denmark who has a puppy sired by my dog, they have asked for a copy of a vet certificate/cryptorchid certificate as they can't register the puppy with their KC in order to show without it. Does anyone have any information about this or do I just go to my vet and ask them to give me a letter confirming my dog is the owner of 2 testicles.
- By Tommee Date 08.09.16 09:25 UTC
Was the puppy born in the UK ? If so it's part of the export pedigree application
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 08.09.16 09:44 UTC
Is it worth having a look at their country's kennel club website? Most can be translated.
- By tooolz Date 08.09.16 09:59 UTC
I had to do this for a puppy I bred which went to Norway.
Stud owner had their vet certify entirety but was only required if the dog hadn't won a Stud Book Number in the UK.
(Assuming I suppose, judges would have ensured dog was normal).
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 08.09.16 10:50 UTC Edited 08.09.16 10:53 UTC Upvotes 1
Sigh.   Some KCs are very odd.   If the sire hadn't been entire he'd not have been able to sire this puppy (I guess with only one testicle, he might?)       Or is this about the status of the puppy - in which case it should be obvious?   Sorry, I don't get it.   You might check with the KC here about this too.   I think I would because I do query the relevance unless this has to do with the possibility the puppy they have, sired by your dog, could pass this condition on?    But would that prevent the puppy from being shown?

From the Export application form -
2  Certification of a Male Dog
Declaration to be signed by veterinary surgeon including the practitioner
address and qualification(s).
Only applicable for a male dog.

Which would suggest it applies to the dog being exported?
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 08.09.16 11:24 UTC
The puppy was born in the UK last year and exported as a puppy, I don't know anything about the rules in Denmark but I assume if the owners are asking me then it must be a requirement to have the sire confirmed as having normal testes.  Seems strange but apparently the Danish Kennel Club has several varieties of shows, the ones which most of us would be attending are known as "Beauty Shows" which has got to say something about our show dogs!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.09.16 11:30 UTC
Sounds easy enough a Vets letter with the dogs ID name etc confirming entirety.

As problems of undescended testicles are a genetic issue I assume their KC require both the dog and his sire to be normal, it may even be specific to the breed, if they have a  high incidence of this problem..
- By Goldmali Date 08.09.16 11:42 UTC
If the sire hadn't been entire he'd not have been able to sire this puppy (I guess with only one testicle, he might?)  

He can certainly sire puppies with one testicle. It's not even impossible to sire pups with two retained ones. And as this can be a genetic issue it makes perfect sense. I've often wondered why in the UK we can register pups without the sire having a certificate of entirety. In cats, here in the UK, you cannot register a litter unless you have logged a certificate of entirety (from your vet) for the sire first.
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 08.09.16 12:08 UTC
I have spoken to the KC who have said they think the puppy was probably exported with a pet passport and to register with the DKC she would need to apply for an Export Pedigree Form 13 so I have passed on the info. My husband and daughter think we should just send a picture of the back end of the dog which clearly shows the desired pair  lol
- By tooolz Date 08.09.16 12:12 UTC Upvotes 1
Which, without a verifiable chip number, could belong to any dog.:lol:
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 08.09.16 14:39 UTC
OMG Toolz, why didn't I think of that
- By Lexy [gb] Date 08.09.16 16:22 UTC

> If the sire hadn't been entire he'd not have been able to sire this puppy


A monorchid dog can definitely sire a litter...why wouldn't he be able to?
It has happened a fair amount both in the past & currently & intentionally too by people who ought to know better! It certainly isn't something I would even consider personally though.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 09.09.16 10:19 UTC
(I guess with only one testicle, he might?)      My rider!    I really should remember I have to spell it out on this website and not be 'flip'  :roll:
- By Floradora [us] Date 12.09.16 12:59 UTC
We had to do this for Denmark with our sire. Just take him to the vet and ask that he just signs something stating he has two descended testicles. Cyrptorchid

Edit to say that it is not the puppy on the export certificate but the sire who needs the form filled out for them to register their puppy. We typed it out ourselves and had our vet sign and stamp
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 12.09.16 14:30 UTC
Well he has had a vet check and a signed letter which I have posted off to Denmark, the puppy owner is happy to pay the £35 fee for the exam so we are all happy.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Stud dog Certificate

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