Hi i have a small/medium breed dog that was mated 10th june 2016 she is now on day 65 with no signs of any puppies she is still eating and pooping fine she is panting and digs a few times in a day but nothing major she is still eating food and has a clear discharge that only apears once she has had a wee..this is the first time she has had a litter and a first for me too any advice and help would be appreciated please dont jump on me with nasty comments i have been searching since before i mated her to try and get clued up thanks in advance

Do you know when she ovulated? What day was she on when you mated her and was she only mated the once? I am assuming it was only once but thought I might as well ask to be sure. She may not have ovulated when you mated her and could have done so a couple of days later.

Have you had her scanned? Do you know how many she is carrying? If she only has one or two in there, there might not be enough of a hormonal change to induce labour in which case she may be requiring a c-section.

Are you taking her temperature? Has she had a significant drop yet? If she has, then labour has started, if not then she might not be ready yet.

The clear discharge is an indicator that she should be going pretty soon but the more she goes over the 63 days - the more I'd be inclined to talk to a vet and get advice.

She was mated twice once on the 10th and then again on the 12th..i havent checked her temp as she gets very distressed if i try..i am not sure on when she ovulated and have not had her scanned as didnt want to put her under the stress...shes a big baby when it comes to the vets..i can still feel her babies moving they are very active... i was going to wait until monday and if she wasnt showing any signs take her first thing monday morning..she is happy in herself isnt showing any signs or distress and genuinly seems fine..i would have had her at the vets if i thought for one second she wasnt doing good..thanms for replying

Mated on the 10th would be due 12 Aug/12th would be due 14 Aug... so we are slap bang in between today

My small/medium breed had her pups on day 65/63.  Wasn't there a thread recently about the second mating usually being the ONE ? Or did I dream it.

1st flushes out the lad so to speak and the second you get all the new active semen.

Good Luck.

So do you think if nothing by monday then to go and see a vet then ?

The problem is the male is a stud dog so the lady who owns him has many different bitches with him

> So do you think if nothing by monday then to go and see a vet then ?

Yes, better to be safe than sorry

Okay thank you fingers crossed she has them naturally before then amd is okay

She sounds as if she is fine so try not to be too anxious, have you someone with whelping experience to help you, it's a great comfort during the birth.  If the mucous is beginning to come away then she should start giving birth fairly soon, fingers crossed you have some lovely puppies with no problems but if in doubt have her vet checked.

I used to give it 2 days over, from the first mating, provided I saw nothing to worry me beforehand, and then get my vet involved.   I never set much score re temperature taking, but as a general rule, although it fluctuates during the final week, once it goes down and stays down you can expect the whelping to begin within 48 hours, if not sooner.   Don't leave her alone now - much as bitches often tend to whelp during the small hours!   Hopefully she's already sleeping in her whelping quarters, with you in there with her overnight so you can see when she starts.  When she does, don't leave her struggling, having strong contractions/pushing hard, for much over one hour without seeing a puppy delivered - each delivery.  There's no point letting her become exhausted if she's going to need a C.Section.    I always alerted my vet when mine started, in case I did need them.

I'd not leave this much over 2 days from 63 days, from the first mating - the puppies will be continuing to grow, making a natural delivery perhaps more difficult!

Good luck - the waiting is the worst part!!!   But she needs you calm and not stressed, if possible.

Yea she is sleeping where she will whelp and i do have someone with alot of breeding experience that will be there to help...my bitch doesnt leave my side so i am loterally with her 24/7..the waiting game is awful but i just want to know shes okay

This morning when i have let her out she has diarrhoea is this normal ??? Dhe has very sold poo before nothing like this !!

Very normal just before whelping .... Good luck.

I think you are very close now as loose poo is her system clearing out and getting ready. Make sure you go out with her EVERY time she poos as she will confuse labour with needing to toilet. There is a chance of her pushing out a whelp out there. Take a towel with you and let the process happen - don't panic and Good luck!

Please come back and let us know the outcome - we get sad when we never find out what happened :)

Yes i have read alot of these forums and like to.find out what happens and its sad when people dont say... i will be sure to let you all know..she is fast asleep now im just hoping it happens today or tonight

> Wasn't there a thread recently about the second mating usually being the ONE ? Or did I dream it.<br />

I haven't seen the thread (but wouldn't say that you dreamed it.)

But, in my experience I wouldn't agree.  Most of my whelpings have been to the first mating.  May just be because the stud dog got it spot on.

Still.no.sign of puppies yet she is sleeping although earlier today she was out having a wee and there was stringy discharge she hasnt pooped again and she still hasnt eaten although will eat a treat if i give her one..she still randomly digs and then.goes back to sleep...this waiting game is awful

I predict puppies by the morning!!  Good luck with the whelping, keep us up to date.

I will keep you updated she has been asleep for about 4 hours lazy girly...

Just to say good luck!

Thank you...she is still relaxed and sleeping she still hasnt eaten..im trying to stay calm she will be ready when shes ready i suppose..

So i have just checked her amd her milk has come in and she has a gurgling sound coming from her stomach...she was whimpering to go outside so i toom her out and she didnt go to the toilet she just stood and ate grass ?

What's happening?

Absoutly nothing she is sleeping !!

I have had first stage go on for 36 hours and then whelping go very quickly.

Also day 10 is pretty early and could have been as early as the LH surge, so two days before Ovualtion, with 4 days before conception.

Most bitches whelp +/- a day 63 days from ovulation.

Still no puppies they are all still moving and mum is still her normal self

any news

Im going to ring the vets today...mum is still acting her normal self and babies are all still moving but just getting more worried

Good luck xxxx

Yes - definitely time to get the vet involved I'd suggest.    I have to say just before whelping, my puppies always went 'quiet' (which worried me to death the first time!!), obviously all lining up to be born.

She is booked in thursday morning for a c section

Puppies grow an awful lot now..personally I would be not waiting until Thursday

Her temperature this morninng was 37.9 and tonight it is 37.2 this is the first tim i have taken her temp as she can be a little funny if you go near her back end

I agree with Lexy.  Wouldn't be waiting a day longer with any of my girls.

I have had two litters go 4 days over 1st mating when they were mated early for mine and then mated several times, but never went over 63 to last mating.

Any news?

No...puppies are all still moving and she is going into have her cesarean tomorrow morning

Just thought id let you all know she started at 10.07pm and has so far had 2 puppies !!!!!! They are too cute !!!!!!

Great keep us updated

Great news, hoping all goes smoothly and that you don't need that appointment tomorrow.

We now have 4 !!! Mums doing so amazing...bless her and babies are doing good aswell..still more to come but i will keep you all updated

Puppy number 5 just came !!! Im so in love ❤

Brilliant news, give those puppies a cuddle from me, I miss not breeding, enjoy your babies

> I miss not breeding, enjoy your babies

In many ways, so do I but I don't miss the 'worry'     I would say that having a new generation every now and then does ease the pain of losing the oldies!

'worry'     I would say that having a new generation every now and then does ease the pain of losing the oldies!

It's one of the reasons I chose to breed, so I would always  have  something of my dogs that have gone to the Rainbow bridge.

Great news. Let us know the final total. Have fun!

The final total was 5 there are all perfect and mummy is doing brilliant..the worry is awful.but im so glad they are here now and doing well

So pleased for you and that she did it herself! Well done both of you.

Congratulations.