I have now mated my bitch after blood tests and as I lost a litter previously am desperate to locate the CH vaccination.
Someone one here did say their vet phoned around and got hold of it. Has anyone got it recently as my vet just says no.
I could not leave the mating any later as she missed last time and this is last try due to age.

Our vet told us there is none available from the manufacturer. She did say to remember that as it's a vaccine uptake is variable and we managed without it for decades .

We might have managed for years without it - but that doesn't mean that litters weren't lost and tears weren't shed!! Any breeder that has lost a litter to canine herpies is not so relaxed about 'managing'!! Having been through it I cannot imagine not vaccinating, its a bit like saying "hey we managed before the Parvo Vaccine came along". Typical of a none repro vet!

Good luck to the OP finding the vaccine - I want some later in the year and I'm hoping they sort their life out by then!

We've looked for it (in the last three weeks) and have a repro vet. Nothing, called around too. Not being manufactured until atleast October.

Thank you. I am even more concerned as I am a dog groomer working from home so mix with lots of dogs ( not my dogs of course)
I guess I will have to wrap her in cotton wool.
We lost a litter from her grandmother. Although she went on to have another litter I will never forget that one and have vaccinated ever since ( until now)

My bitch is hopefully 3 weeks pregnant now, I asked on here when she was mated, I called many vets and none had it. I believe the shelf life is short hence why no vets have any saved.

I think the point is that the vaccine is not available and we don't reliably know when it will be. This means that for a lot of people a difficult choice has to be made - whether to go ahead with a well planned litter, in similar situations to the one the Op finds herself - to take the chance and mate anyway, or not to mate at all. My excellent, highly respected vet was I'm sure trying to reassure us.

Phoned Merial as a last resort and as has been said - not available until October. I expressed my feelings to them that I felt let down.
I have used this in all my litters since I lost the litter I mentioned and despite all the worrying that goes with a litter, took some comfort from this vaccine.

I have found one by calling around few days ago. I also know of somebody else who found one at the same time so yes, very difficult to find but not impossible  ( I called about 15 practises :-) )

I just googled practises in the area and called them myself explaining myself and why I'm calling around. I did call an equine hospital by accident too as it came under the vets listed. They had it in stock for mares :-)

Yes my equine vet uses a French supplier after having repeated shortages, I did ask them if they could get the canine version but unfortunately they couldn't!

Would there be any benefit in giving only one herpes vaccine I wonder? I have missed the period after mating as I couldn't locate the vaccine, but I wonder if I managed to locate a vaccine before whelping it would be beneficial??

Noora - do you mind me asking what area you are in. My vet shares with other practices in the area and just flatly said no it is not available.

I'm in cambs/Suffolk borders.
my vet too said it is impossible to get it, but I thought some vets must have one hiding in the back of the fridge as I believe it is sold in twos and if bitch misses, the second one would not be given. I thought all I waste is time if I call around and can't locate one.

The other person who found one in midlands area... Both vets indeed just had 1 vial

Thank you. I'll get on the phone Monday. I'm in South West. Most of the practices round here seem to share things e.g. overnight services so was not sure whether it was worth it as assumed he would at least have asked those practices he is involved with but perhaps not. He has known that I have been concerned.

Just thinking about what you said, my bitch missed earlier this year and had just the one jab as a result so see what you are saying.

I was calling around for a friend so maybe you could ask few friends call their local vets and you quickly get lots of practises covered :-)

Can I just ask...Is one vaccine better than none at all?

Jus had a quick look and one since says first vaccine stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies second to ensure transfer of antibodies into colostrum.u may need to do more research as that looks a bit simplistic. I would guess yes the  one is better than none if you were u intending to vaccinate

Have just made my first calls to only vets open on a Sunday!!! No joy there.
As I understand it the protection from that first jab expires after a number of days hence the 2nd jab. I did not know that about the colostrum.

mothers immunity is passed to the pups through the colostrum in the first 36 hours ( See Dr Jean Dodds research 2016) so at this point if there are antibodies present the pups will benefit. The pups are then considered immune for the first few weeks, obviously there are always exceptions, non responders for example This applies to  the other diseases that she is immune to as well. It is also why the core vaccines are given more than once to try and make sure at least one hits the spot

In this case I am not entirely sure if the 2nd vaccine is just  to make sure( or give the best chance)that antibodies have been  produced and still active so will be passed on to pups or if they are really only present for a very short time. In that case why not just vaccinate once at the later stage ? ( .Without knowing how long the antibodies remain active from the first and could be seen on titre tests it would be hard to know which is the more important vaccine. Also if there are no antibodies present I don't know if memory cells can be passed on as well.  That  would need far more research and  I would be looking at people like   Jean Dodds and Ron Shultz as a start point not your average vet

A lot of protocol for vaccines is based on science but is still a bit of hope added in . 

Please note this is all from my own reading/discussions on vaccinations generally and I don't claim to give any advice for others just info I have read
My thoughts and I don't breed so thank goodness don't have this dilemma  but feel for those who do would be take what you can get and keep looking if you have decided to vaccinate. As I do use homeopathy I would be doing that anyway on the cant hurt could help principal at least. you don't need to believe for that

In that case why not just vaccinate once at the later stage ?

Because that could mean the bitch does not get pregnant at all, or loses the pups early on.

I lost my litter at about the 6 week stage. You do not routinely vaccinate all dogs for this as it is a problem in pregnancy and with puppies.
This vaccination protects the puppies in the womb from this virus and then later during birthing and early development. My research found that the initial vaccination covers x number of days and then the booster is required to cover the next stage.
It is said that some breeders went for many years not realising this virus was present and having no or very small litters or still borns.
It is now thankfully possible to vaccinate and much more widely known about. Until this present problem.

Thanks for clarifying goldmali I was working through the logic and the key factor seems to be how long  the antibodies are in the system. From what u say it is thought to be for a very short time hence the need for two vaccine .does that make sense

Thank you for convincing me to try again but it may surprise you as to what actually happened next. Can't believe it myself.
I tried 3 more vets a bit out of area as they are more country vets. One receptionist said it was nothing to worry about. Another said " I think that is included in the yearly vaccinations" Interesting!
A sudden thought made me remember that as mine had missed last time and you mentioned 2 vials - was there a possibility my vet still had one.
Bingo - they said they did not realise when I rang last week.
My vet did say though there may be some confusion. He said it does not come as a package of 2 but it is two bottles which have to be mixed. It just so happened they had one in and it was in date so that says they ordered it for someone who did not use it because they always get it in for me to order.
I know I will not be able to get the 2nd in but it will get me over the first so many weeks.
That is if I don't lose the will to live as last mating Thursday and as usual still bleeding!
I am over the moon to get this jab for her so thank you all who contributed to this thread.

So pleased you found some! Hopefully you will be able to put your mind at rest- for a bit at least- then the hard work and worry start up again when the puppies arrive! :)

Brilliant news you found one!

That is interesting that it does not come in twos as I know few people who have been charged for both jabs when getting the first as "it comes in twos so we have had to get them in for you"...

I did not use herpes before but had 4 misses with different girls (all progesterone tested matings) on a row. Used herpes and since then both matings I've done have resulted on large litters. Could be a coincidence of course but I will give it from now on.
Also know of a litter lost to it so even more of a reason to give if it stops that happening.

I have only ever been charged for one jab at a time and if my vet is right, ( I really do trust what he says) then I am not sure why you would pay for the two up front. Still can't believe this was right under my nose. I had a long list of vets to ring!!!

When I got my girl vaccinated this mating, I was charged £92 the first time I went in. I queried it the 2nd time after having mentioned it here and saying they were going to charge me something like £54 the next time if she took. The senior vet was in reception and told me not to pay and to leave it with him. I haven't heard back and I have called in twice to arrange pet passports so I assume I was charged for both the 1st time round.

I have not asked the cost but last time it was about £50 odd pounds for one jab.

Going for my appt Thursday at 5pm as 7-10 days from mating recommended.

Just come back from vets.
With a wormer for her daughter and the herpes jab, bill was £53.
Will be some weeks before I know whether she has taken of course but I feel a little happier now she has had the jab.

very happy for you and fingers crossed for a positive outcome

Glad you found someone with the vaccine--our vet is excellent but when I rang a couple of weeks ago I was told there was a shortage and that it could be October before they get fresh supplies, and the new year, before regular supplies are available again.

Thank you. Hope it has all been worth it. Yes I phoned Merial direct and was told October. I just got lucky for the first one but of course the 2nd will not be available.