Put this is breeding not training since this a puppy I've bred myself and so after advice from people who kept a puppy.

I'm middle aged and had dogs all my life but this is the first time I've bred.

My pup is growing fast and has so far exceeded her Mother at this age in every way except toilet training. She's clean all night but still seems to think the perfect place for toilet is the room she was born in, simple keep it closed. Then she goes outside the room. I uber praise and reward when she does it outside and I'm just ignoring her when she does it inside.

Any tips ? I've been blaming the weather but it been going on too long now.

>I uber praise and reward when she does it outside and I'm just ignoring her when she does it inside.

I don't know what you mean by the word "uber". 

You haven't said how old this puppy is, which would be essential to know.   I accustom my puppies to newspapers while they are with me, as these enable puppies to do something "right" even though they are not yet able to communicate the need to go outdoors for that purpose.
It also makes it easier for new owners.  Naturally there will be all kinds of opinions about this, but it works for me and for my puppy buyers.
So when I have kept a puppy which I have bred myself, this is already a step in the right direction, as the pups have experienced (not "learned") that one does one's business in a certain place, not just anywhere.  It's either papers or garden.

Still, it takes several months before I stop finding the occasional puddles here and there in the house.  My dogs have direct access to the garden from the house, and this naturally helps, but it just takes time!  I have a 7-month-old right now from a litter at the end of November, and I believe I can (only now) finally say that the puddles have stopped.

I don't want to teach you about sucking eggs, so I presume you are taking the pup out to toilet upon waking, after eating, after play and about every hour to an hour and a half? It's really is a matter of being consistant and persistent until the pup 'gets' it. I've found puppy pads or newspaper counter productive as the pup then assumes it's ok to toilet indoors which will lead to confusion.

As Nimue says, how old is the pup and what breed as this info will be helpful.

With the puppies we 'ran on', we had them in our puppy pen in the kitchen, so the big whelping box could be dismantled.   That area had a raised bench box, and I'd have newspaper on the floor to begin with.   As most of our litter were planned for the 'better weather' (hah with that this year!) they'd spend an increasingly significant time in the ex-pen outside which meant the outflow indoors was significantly reduced.   To be honest, I can't really remember having any problem with housetraining - they were either indoors, or out so it was either picking up/replacing newspaper regularly, or not at all.    They couldn't be with the adults for some time because of the size difference, but once they were, they just came and went via the open kitchen door, with the others.

Can I ask what method you are using to housetrain your pup?

It can be very difficult with a homebred one, especially if the litter was used to paper indoors. It's just a question of getting the pup out frequently, there is really no other way.
I have a litter of eleven 5 week old pups at the moment and we now make sure they go out after each meal so they are starting to get a bit of an idea already.

Thanks all,

Sorry that wasn't very well worded in the above, these aren't accidents I'm talking about. She has the idea that is the place to do it. They were all paper trained and all did well, no negative feedback from the rest of the litter. Then again might not be the thing to mention / complain about ?

She will play outside for ages and then we come inside and she will wee, pref in the room of her birth, pen and now where she sleeps ( never near her bed). Tiled floor so not a massive issue and easy to clean up.  Even had a friend take her for morning and gave the room a triple mop and dry in an attempt to remove any lingering smells. She sleeps well at night in her pen with its bed, paper and water. Never uses it and the only time she seems to go outside EASILY is first thing.

I've tried the room both with and without paper, makes no difference and its easier to clean up without any. Next dry spell, I'll try paper outside and drop some of her and her Mothers urine on to it.

Maybe its a game, maybe she's too clever by far and knows the time outside will be cut short if she wee's outside ? Doubly so in all this wet weather ?

Sorry should have said she is just over 4 months.

I uber praise and reward when she does it outside and I'm just ignoring her when she does it inside.

Brilliant!

Am I reading this right that she's ok on a night? It's in the daytime she's doing this.........gosh at 4 months my pups only hold their pee if I'm up at 4am to take them out, which is what I always do,

There should be plenty of her scent already in the garden from her and her siblings going outside, I use the newspaper trick for pups I have not bred and it does work, won't do any harm I guess, but the garden should already be her familiar territory.

I think you just have to ramp up calling her outside, *every hour,* and as said, as soon as waking, eating, after play.......... and with a nice big umbrella over you both if raining. My pups are like ducklings, I call pee, pee and they follow me, do their business and come back in.

Continue with praise, praise, praise,

Just to check, if you are using disinfectant to mop up her pee, that will entice her to carry on going there too. You need to use some non-bio washing powder to neutralize her smell, and don't think anything of picking her up quickly to make her finish outside, done that a few times, with loads of good girls of course.

It is really early days though, she's still a baby, they can't hold themselves at this age,  and some pups take longer to learn, it is very rare for a pup to be clean at 4 months, very rare..........6-12 months would be waning, but not before that, believe me, your other pups will be just the same.

I uber praise and reward when she does it outside and I'm just ignoring her when she does it inside.

Brilliant!

Sorry Nimue, maybe mega praise would be better English.

Am I reading this right that she's ok on a night? It's in the daytime she's doing this.........gosh at 4 months my pups only hold their pee if I'm up at 4am to take them out, which is what I always do,

Yes she is, slight cheat going to bed late and getting up early and I doze early morning and evenings to catch up. Very late this evening but normally about 6 hours, long "summer" days mean she wakes early

There should be plenty of her scent already in the garden from her and her siblings going outside, I use the newspaper trick for pups I have not bred and it does work, won't do any harm I guess, but the garden should already be her familiar territory.

I envy you, you must live in a much dryer place than me. I'd me amazed if any scent outside from her siblings remains but her Mother is here so no real excuses.

I think you just have to ramp up calling her outside, *every hour,* and as said, as soon as waking, eating, after play.......... and with a nice big umbrella over you both if raining. My pups are like ducklings, I call pee, pee and they follow me, do their business and come back in.

Well worth a try, many thanks.

Continue with praise, praise, praise,

Just to check, if you are using disinfectant to mop up her pee, that will entice her to carry on going there too. You need to use some non-bio washing powder to neutralize her smell, and don't think anything of picking her up quickly to make her finish outside, done that a few times, with loads of good girls of course.

By jove that could be the very answer I'm looking for.

It is really early days though, she's still a baby, they can't hold themselves at this age,  and some pups take longer to learn, it is very rare for a pup to be clean at 4 months, very rare..........6-12 months would be waning, but not before that, believe me, your other pups will be just the same.

Maybe my addled middle aged brain and the fact she was born here is confusing my memory and I'm comparing her with older pups in the past.

Hi, Just had to post here and comfort Kenny that he is not alone. My last pup, a GWP, took easily 6 months to achieve bladder control. I would take him out for a wee, he would perform and I would bring him in and he would do more all over the hall floor, sitting room or kitchen! Most of my dogs have been completely house trained by 4 months or earlier. I guess some breeds are different. I recommend a odour eliminator spray my vet practice uses, it's by Animalcare, Pet health care and called 'Odour Eliminator'. Removes all smell of accidents which prevents subsequent weeing/pooping. Can't live without it if you have a puppy or old incontinent cat or dog :-). Kenny keep on doing what you are doing, some dogs just take a little longer to get there.