Does anyone know if a pet passport is required for travel to Northern Ireland by ferry from England/Wales? Doing a search is just giving me conflicting information. Thanks

No
Northern Ireland is the UK.
If you then decide to go into Eire then you may
Be asked to comply.

If you then decide to go into Eire then you may
Be asked to comply.

No may about it you will be required to have a pet passport. Totally stupid UK government insist on it, yet Irish government are applying for derogation, which would mean you wouldn't need one to go to Ireland, but would need one to come back to UK.

No rabies or specific tapeworm in either country<sigh>

they are remarkably lax

Not on the UK side only the Irish side

The only good thing about it is that it is supposed to mean that the Irish puppy farmed puppies are not legally able to come to UK until they are 16 weeks old, though I assume it doesn't stop them same as the ones coming in from other EU countries.

Yes of course, when you go from N.Ireland to Eire.

I took my dog to Eire 2 years ago and she didn t have a passport.

It's still a bit confusing...when is the UK not the UK??

I know that Northern Ireland is UK so should not need one, but have read that going from Northern to Southern would need a passport, but I understand that the borders between North and South are barely visible and not patrolled.

Please correct me if I have this wrong.

Border not patrolled however if in Southern Ireland with a dog from UK you need a passport to be legal. So if in car accident or any other incident where police called you could be required to provide passport - simply not worth risking for sake of getting a passport

After what happened last night, Ireland may unite and join Europe, Scotland may leave the UK and join Europe and England and Wales will be all that is left of what everyone calls "Great" Britain, a Kingdom that was united in 1707. 

So you can all expect to be using your Pet Passports a heck of a lot more, if all that goes down. 

All because Cameron thought it might be a good idea to further his own political ends by letting the average person in the street have a say in something as important as this - something which we elect politicians to know the facts on - and then misinformation and lies were spread....

Rabid, it is the 'average' person in the street that SHOULD have a vote on something as important as staying in or leaving the EU!

Did you see the Washington Post article? In the hours AFTER the result thousands of people in the UK used Google to search "What is the EU?".  Those are the average people you're talking about. Who looked up what they were voting on after they'd voted.

My thoughts exact Boo16 !!!!!

Poodlenoodle Do you not agree with 'the average person ' being able to vote on MPs, political parties etc then, - as they're so, reportedly, il-informed?    You mentioned thousands when mlliions voted and you don't know why these thousands looked this up: could they be checking?  Could they be a mix of the people who didn't vote/voted to remain/voted out?
Articles like this are intended to sensationalise.

I think this matter wasn't one the average person on the street was automatically equipped to deal with, and that there should have been media control to prevent lies being publicised in either direction (the Scottish referendum had a media restriction close to the referendum, though it was simply broken by the UK government to print their godawful The Vow).

I have friends who have PhDs in politics (some even in European policy) who had to do careful research to appreciate the full economic and social repercussions of exiting the EU, and they started from a better knowledge base than the average person. Do YOU understand the full legal repercussions for, say, importing dog food from Zooplus when we're no longer in the EU? Just as a random but relevant example. I mean I read up on it but it's complicated stuff.

This is not like a general election where we can change our minds in 4 years. Why do we elect politicians, if we are going to make decisions of this magnitude ourselves? Because they are specifically educated to make these decisions? But of laugh if you look in Westminster actually....

I totally agree with poodlenoodle.  This is an incredibly complicated issue with ramifications that your average Joe Bloggs couldn't be expected to understand - in fact, most people with PhDs in Politics probably couldn't understand the outcome. 

We elect politicians because we believe they represent our views at a higher level - that is what we pay them for.  We also pay them because they are more educated on the issues at hand and can understand how best to achieve our interests overall and as a whole - or at least, can do that better than Mr Smith of Bognor Regis who is an electrician. 

Leaving the EU was not in our interests - as is already evident - and it's a farce that a referendum was used in this situation, rather than debate and decisions being made at a higher level.

Why don't we just have some more referendums?  I know - should we abolish the monarchy?  Let's put that to referendum, shall we?  Or how about - should we change the voting system?  Or, I know - should we privatise the NHS? 

Why haven't there been referendums on all these issues?  Because no one seeks to become PM based on the outcome and there's not much personal gain to be made from it, that's why - and that's exactly why we had a referendum on this issue.  Nothing to do with what was best for Britain.

As suggested, in view of what's going on now, get a Pet Passport!!!    And carry other Health information with you too.

"All because Cameron thought it might be a good idea to further his own political ends by letting the average person in the street have a say in something as important as this - something which we elect politicians to know the facts on - and then misinformation and lies were spread.... "

TOTALLY AGREE.   The average person was NOT equipped to make an informed-enough decision about any of this.   We elect people do make such far reaching decisions for us.   Not simply turn it over to the public.   If anybody is to blame for all of this, it's those who didn't think about what might happen, with all the media-led misinformation out there.   The knock on effect of this vote has only just begun.   Next will be the break-up of the United Kingdom, if Ms Sturgeon has her way.  Such a mess which should have been avoided.   There's letting the public have their say, when it's possible to inform them properly.   Which didn't happen.

Again get a Pet Passport!

ps   I buy my food from Zooplus, but it's UK made - not that the ingredients used may mean an increase in price - as may well happen with human food, petrol, the utilities etc.etc.    Better off UK?

Wouldn't it be a good idea if everyone who voted to remain now stopped moaning and we all get together and work out the best way of running the country now that we are no longer members of the EU.

However, I suspect that over the next two years that is supposed to be the timing of the exit from the EU, various deals will be worked out and that the UK will end up in a similar position as Denmark as regards a sort of membership of the EU.

Re: Ms Sturgeon, her way is mine too, i am really hoping for an independent Scotland (not to escape the English as was so often touted during the indyref - my entire family bar my husband and children and a few cousins are English and live in England! But to escape Westminster, whose methodology i am repulsed by, an opinion obviously shared by many since the Leave vote was seen as a way to stick it to The Establishment by a generous proportion of Leave voters).

Re: zooplus, i buy orijen and various dried snacks from them.  My main concern is postage, which is free to EU countries for orders over some limit (£50?  I don't know, but i'm always over it because i buy bulk).  I can't think it'll be cheaper to DPD full price from Canada than Germany if we aren't in the EU and it's not that cheap to begin with, i am a bit worried about it, but it's only dog food!  I just used it as an example because it's a small way it could affect lots of everyday lives.  Another is that Aldi and Lidl are so cheap in part by using EU trading loops to decrease prices across the entire EU.  They are cheap in Australia too, but not as cheap as here.  I have 3 children with hollow legs and love my Lidl and Aldi!  Won't be laughing if they start to cost the same as Tesco.

Sadly i don't think the Remain voters are going to shut up, in some large part because the Leave side (politicians not voters) seem to have absolutely no idea how to progress.  There is nothing to be positive ABOUT, nobody on a podium saying, "okay, calm down, this is the plan".  Even though i was extremely unhappy with the No outcome of the Indyref, they "winning" side did actually visibly have talks, make suggestions, have ideas to move things forwards.  And the losing side did actually offer salve and call for kindness and unity - okay, Salmond stepped down (as he'd said he would) but Sturgeon immediately took his place.  This limbo we are currently left in is terrible.  And the only person who has called for unity is Sturgeon!  Maybe David Cameron mentioned it briefly as he made his sharp exit (which he'd promised not to do in this situation) after saying he'd let his successor enact Article 50 (which he had promised to do himself in this situation).  It is bad enough to find one in the minority, however large, in one's country, it is so much worse to feel there is no stability and nobody providing any either, even the so-called winners.  Meanwhile the nastier side of the winning side, the racist and bigoted minority (and i fully accept they ARE a tiny minority) has found it's voice.  There is a huge album on Facebook just now of racist incidents that have occurred since the outcome - "childs name go back to Romania" on the loo wall at a school, laminated cards saying Polish people should go home put through letterboxes, young British-Pakistani teenaged girls having "Go Home! Britain's for the Whites" screamed at them by grown men in the street, people being physically assaulted and beaten for being foreign, it is horrifying reading. This result has given those vile people a voice, by making them feel (however misguidedly) part of a majority.  In Scotland, in Glasgow (a city with a huge problem with bigotry in the past) we had a few incidents of flag burning (the saltire was torn from the shoulders of a young girl and burned in George Square, although the BBC reported it as if it was the losing side, it actually was the usual set of young men who spend most weekends doing such things, using Indyref as an excuse, and hey happened to be unionists) on the night of the result, and the government and police handled it very swiftly and calmly (another factor was that it rained and rained and rained so people were less inclined to riot!).  That was it.  We moved forward quickly because our leaders had laid the path already and herded us swiftly down it.

Unfortunately it is now in rest of Europe's interest to give us a thorough kicking on the way out and offer us a vastly reduced set of benefits as a non-member trading partner, in order to silence the fascist uprisings in other places and discourage other contributing members (of which i think there are only 4 now) from leaving too.  To avoid collapse they must make us leave soon and in disgrace and there ARE legal ways for them to do so (i am informed by a pal with a PhD in European Policy at least, i do not pretend to understand the legalities he was citing!).  hese are difficult times to be sure.

In my experience, the people who are saying "we should all be positive, look forwards, put this behind us blah", voted Leave. (Not just on here, on social media.)

Well that's lovely isn't it? They got what they voted for, and now they want all the people who didn't get what they wanted, to shut up complaining and pointing out all the drawbacks and fallout. 

Life (humanity) doesn't work like that. There are huge repercussions and those who voted Remain will do all they can, explore every possibility and attempt to undo this referendum in any way possible.

Oh dear! The people have made their choice and as a democracy their wishes need to be respected and acted upon. If we have confidence in our own country to do well on our own then the rest of the world will think so too. All this in fighting does nothing to give investors the confidence to proceed with any future plans.

>If we have confidence in our own country to do well on our own then the rest of the world will think so too.

!?!

Our prime minister has resigned. All the leaders of the Leave campaign have vanished from view. Our government's opposition has collapsed into resignation and disarray. The lies of the campaign have been laid bare. Our economy has tanked. The union is threatening to come apart at the seams.

The rest of the world isn't looking to see how cheerful we look about it all! They are looking for factual evidence of our predictable future stability, and at the moment there isn't any.

We don't have petitions to hold a 2nd general election if what 'we' consider the 'wrong' party wins.

..............I know, I know, there is only 4-5 year gap till the next one................but look back to the damage that can be done in that time.................lowest ever price for gold - sell off ours, give back the concesions from the EU etc, etc

That petition, which had almost 4 million signatures, last time I looked, was created by a Leave campaigner, in May, to contest the anticipated narrow Remain victory result.

He only set it up to argue when his side lost by a narrow margin. Now his side has won, in exactly the circumstances he was preparing to contest, he wants us to stop "misusing" his petition to contest the result.

Very ironic.

It has been advised on the petition there are 70.000 fraudulent names signed up already! Not great is it a petition with fraudulent usage set against it.

My x did not have a made up name next to it,neither was the x signed by an idiot or racist. I'm me,a person who decided to vote the way I wished too and felt best way. If the remain had won I'd have accepted it with a grudge but I'd not have signed a petition to make another referendum be cast because they won by only 4%.

I think this thread started out as pet passports? I'd say if Scotland gain independance than as well as Europe and beyond I'd need a passport to take my boy to visit friends in Edinburgh.
I'll wait until next year to see if pet passport rules change before getting one for my boy.

It's not as simple as "we held a referendum so stick to the result". The campaign was run on lies and false statistics. The result was incredibly close. It's not fair to make such a huge decision on the basis of that.

The original question has now been hijacked, so I am closing this thread.