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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / KC AffiX for 2016
- By Ells-Bells [gb] Date 10.05.16 14:45 UTC
Does anyone know what the affix is for this year?
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 10.05.16 15:03 UTC
is affex your own stud name ?? mine grove but is it defrint for kc stud pre affex
- By Ells-Bells [gb] Date 10.05.16 15:26 UTC
No, the KC have their own every year - last years was Kenquince
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 10.05.16 18:49 UTC
ahh i thought people had their own mime reg with chs
- By Lexy [gb] Date 10.05.16 18:53 UTC
Yes, you can have your own affix (which is paid for & then a yearly subscription) but if you don't have an affix, you can use the KC affix if you ask. I never did prior to having my own.
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 10.05.16 19:03 UTC
thanks for explaing
- By Goldmali Date 10.05.16 21:05 UTC
Isn't it a rule that you get the KC affix added if you've not given your pups at least two word names? As otherwise there would be too many dogs with the same name. Or am I confusing it with cats?
- By Ells-Bells [gb] Date 11.05.16 05:06 UTC
I'm not too sure, you can ask the KC to name your dogs for you, hence their affix but I don't know if you can have any input on the other words
- By MamaBas [us] Date 11.05.16 09:00 UTC

> Isn't it a rule that you get the KC affix added if you've not given your pups at least two word names? As otherwise there would be too many dogs with the same name


This isn't anything I've noticed.   I did have one name rejected because it happened to be a Kennel affix belonging to somebody else - Denver.   It was a D-litter and I happened to live in a hamlet near a village with a D-name and they gave him that.   Hated it!!!

I've never worked out why the KC affix is given to some dogs, to be honest.   I don't know what the 2016 one is - not had a recent KCSB Record sent yet.   Some people register litters without any affix.
- By CaroleC [gb] Date 11.05.16 12:31 UTC
That reminds me about a litter I registered in the 70's. One of the names I had applied for was (Affix) Heather, which is protected as an historical affix in Scotties. The KC, in their wisdom, substituted the name Holly. This would have been a good choice if it hadn't been the name of the dam!
- By Nimue [ch] Date 11.05.16 14:06 UTC Upvotes 3
ahh i thought people had their own mime reg with chs

This is probably the most mysterious sentence I have ever read in English!
- By Cava14Una Date 11.05.16 16:04 UTC
Did we actually find out what it is?? I looked but no luck
- By Nimue [ch] Date 12.05.16 04:29 UTC
I cannot even begin to understand all this business about afixes in the UK.  And certainly not in the abreviated code so often used on this forum, which is, I guess, for "insiders only".  A tough one for "foreigners" like me.  Maybe there are others who haven't a clue what all those clever abbreviations mean.

In Switzerland, where I live, a breeder has an FCI-registered kennel name.  When a litter is born, you register the puppies under names you have chosen, which all must begin with the same letter, and your kennel name is attached to that.  This is how it appears on the pedigree, for example: Adam Of Happy Paradise      You chose the name Adam, and Of Happy Paradise is your kennel name.  That's it.
- By Ells-Bells [gb] Date 12.05.16 05:09 UTC
No. not found it yet!
- By Goldenmum [gb] Date 12.05.16 06:28 UTC
It's not too different in the UK. Most breeders will register an affix with the Kennel Club which goes on the front of the name of the puppies that they breed.  If someone has an affix and buys a dog in, the affix can be added to the end, they pay the Kennel Club for this.  The Kennel Club affix is an odd one in my eyes, I do not see why any breeder would choose to use this service. The post I think you are referring to with abbreviations does not make sense to me, may have typing errors in it.
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 06:28 UTC
That sentence makes to sense to me either.
- By Nimue [ch] Date 12.05.16 06:40 UTC
is affex your own stud name ?? mine grove but is it defrint for kc stud pre affex

I'm still stuck on this one too.  It just goes over my head.  Not so important, but a little frustrating not to be able to understand what it is about.
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 06:49 UTC
Again I cant fathom out that either, I think that person needs to reread before the post and use spellcheck as well. I find their posts very difficult to read and quite frequently understand.
Do you understand how the KC affixes work now from what others have typed?
- By Nimue [ch] Date 12.05.16 06:57 UTC
No.  :eek:
- By claire_41 [gb] Date 12.05.16 07:21 UTC

>This is probably the most mysterious sentence I have ever read in English!


I'll probably get accused of bullying here but yes its very difficult to understand some of the posts by this poster.

>ahh i thought people had their own


I think what she means is she thought people had their own Kennel Name (this is used as a an affix in the UK usually unless you've bought the puppy in, in which case its tagged on at the end)

> mime reg with chs


I'd guess that CHS is Clydesdale related, (mime should read mine) and she has a prefix (generally called prefix in horses)
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 07:32 UTC Upvotes 2
You apply for an affix to the KC, once approved it generally starts at the beginning of the kc name so lets take the affix is called treebark and then the names the breeder wants for each puppy.
So Treebark Adonis or Treebark Joe Bloggs.
If someone doesn't have an affix they can just name them randomly like Love Me Do, however they can get the KC to use their own affix which always changes each year and its a tick box on the form, so all puppies of any breed could have the kc's affix for that year.

If someone buys a puppy they can add their affix at the end by simply putting it on or adding a link word that the KC accepts.
So it could be Treebark Adonis at Weedy or Treebark Adonis Weedy or Treebark Adonis avec Weedy if Weedy is that owners affix.
Hope that makes a bit more sense?
- By Nimue [ch] Date 12.05.16 07:45 UTC Upvotes 1
As  they say hereabouts:  DU LIEBER HIMMEL!!!  :razz:
- By Nimue [ch] Date 12.05.16 07:50 UTC Upvotes 1

I'll probably get accused of bullying here but yes its very difficult to understand some of the posts by this poster.


Well yes.  It makes one realise how helpful punctuation, capital letters and spellings can be in conveying messages!  :smile:
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 12.05.16 08:42 UTC

>> Hope that makes a bit more sense?


Does, for me - it's been years since our last litter, so I didn't know/remember about ticking any box to use the KC affix of the moment (year) :grin:

My latest buy in came from a breeder with a registered affix and he is registered as (affix) Latin Lover.   To that I added our affix, making him (affid) Latin Lover with (my affix).   I didn't bother with my other hound. But with LL, I had intended to show him.   He's called Frankie at home - Latin Lover... my 'admiration' for a certain Latin jockey in this country!!!  As my sister said at the time, had to be.
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 09:27 UTC
really sorry right chs is clydesdale horse socity my prefix is grove which is resgistred with them but whem i get pupy can i add grove in to kc name i now someone that has her prefex along with breeders name in dog show name
kc really confuses me
- By Goldenmum [gb] Date 12.05.16 09:52 UTC
You would need to register the affix with the Kennel Club to add it to your new puppy's name.
- By claire_41 [gb] Date 12.05.16 10:03 UTC

> kc really confuses me


Youre not alone :wink:
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 10:29 UTC
thanks i bet its costs more than clydsedale horse soc costs £10 to reg your prefex with clyd horse soc its one off payment and reg for lifr
- By claire_41 [gb] Date 12.05.16 10:37 UTC
It certainly does :( then there's the annual maintenance.......

Just reminded me though I need to send my horses passport for change of ownership ooops.
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 11:12 UTC
dont worry we all do it
do you have to pay to change ownership
clyd horse soc charges £20.00 the breeder paid that when i bought apollo
must ask my friend if she has to pay to change tattersalls passeport she bought ex irish bred mare few months back she been raced and bred from cracking mare would love to have sit on her seen picts of her hunting in ireland some jump in her
- By claire_41 [gb] Date 12.05.16 11:36 UTC
Yes Is £21 & £3.50 postage. Mines an ex-NH horse on a Weatherby's passport . He raced about 10 time I think (got the info from racing post just cant remember) and boy he can move and a super jump too. I'm still getting to grips with him (had him last July) as he's not my normal type and I had a 7 year break from horses after losing confidence (and interest).
- By Merlot [gb] Date 12.05.16 11:58 UTC Upvotes 2
The Kennel Club in the UK is simple. If you wish you can register an Affix with them, then you do need to pay a minimum amount each year to maintain it. If you breed a litter you name each puppy with your affix in front  So if your affix is Sunshine then each puppy is called
Sunshine*****  Could be Sunshine sweetheart or Sunshine in the sky etc.. No longer than 24 letters including the Affix. If you sell a puppy to someone who also holds and affix they can then pay to add it to the name so lets say the new owners affix is Tonight they can change the name to Sunshine in the sky Tonight. Easy.  The Kennel club holds its own affix and this is available to those breeders who have no registered affix themselves. It changes a little every year and invariably starts with Ken **** Its available to use but if you do not wish to use it you can just give each puppy a name like Little dreamer. However in order not to name puppies too similarly to a paid for affix these are often quite hard to find. If Dreamer for instance is a registered affix then Little dreamer would not be allowed.
Its really not to  hard. The Kennel Club in the UK is responsible for licensing all shows whos wins contribute to a Kennel Club award such as Junior Warrant (JW) or Show certificate of Merit (ShCM) or Champion (CH) in the working side there are other titles and I am sorry I do not know then all. Only dogs registered with the Kennel Club are eligible to enter these shows so it is important to have your dog registered if you wish to show or work them towards titles. There are some rogue registers like the Dog Lovers Register (DLR ) and its quite possible to use these to register puppies but they would not be eligible to show at the majority of the British (Or for that matter overseas ) shows. These have sprung up and are most often used by those who just breed for profit and wish to hoodwink the general public into thinking they have a Registered dog who can compete ! They may well have a registered dog but its not eligible to become a Champion no matter how many *shows* it wins. It can only enter unlicensed shows like at summer fairs etc.. Unlicensed shows are what we would call companion shows and are just for fun. These are for pet dogs. The other thing to remember is that unless your dog is registered properly on the breed register with the Kennel Club there is no way of knowing if it is pure bred as the rogue registers do not ask or expect to have a pedigree in order to register a puppy. So you could have a litter of cross breeds and register them with the rogue registry but not be able to register with the Kennel club Breed register although you could register them on the Kennel Club Working register.
Hope that helps a little
Aileen
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 12:18 UTC
Is that the same as lifetime membership with the CHS? Only I looked on their website and nothing for paying for am affix/prefix but a lifetime membership is £800!!! :eek:
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 12:38 UTC
really hope he works out for you my friend daughter had two ex nh hunt horses both had problems and one was nutter under saddle so sold both and got mare
one gelding was bred by jp macmanus he was nice boy but not safe
other was bred  by chap mccain son he was nice but issues got everything crossed that mare works for teenagers
really hope you have fun and get confidac with your boy.are u doing ex racers classes ridden show classes??
not just heavys i do its was hunters.shetlandland and also had conamara mare on  loan 3yrs ago she was lovely but had to stop ridding due to ill health but thinking about gettin pony to drive once i have had diff surgays
will be diff to drive pony compared to 18.2hd or 19.hd heavy
really do miss driving and riddin
my heavy out on permant loan to lovely couple he been driven and ridden at all county shows scot and england
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 12:40 UTC
no life time membership is to be members for life
why are you checking up on me do u think i am lying
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 12:53 UTC
I was just interested in pricing and had a nosey at their website and couldn't see anything on their price guide for affix membership and wondered if the lifetime membership was one and the same
- By cambria Date 12.05.16 12:56 UTC
Found it now and its £40 and you have to be a member for that to register a prefix with the CHS. Yearly membership is £40
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 12.05.16 13:09 UTC
its gone up when i registerd mine about 27yrs ago it was £20
i retirerd 7yrs ago it was same price then so they have doubled price
- By Kenny Date 12.05.16 13:18 UTC Upvotes 1
English KC you know the one for pedigree DOGS charge £20 per year to keep a Kennel name or £18 if you pay by direct debit.
- By Lexy [gb] Date 12.05.16 17:09 UTC Upvotes 1
Yes & on application for a UK Affix (now called Kennel Name) you have to pay £70 for the first year :wink:
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 13.05.16 08:56 UTC
kc sounds so expensive why do they charge you every year for your prefix is stud name
and differnt horse societys only take payment to register that you prefix ie stud name reg for life
kc likes to milk money form people
- By CaroleC [gb] Date 13.05.16 09:07 UTC
I compounded my affix for life in the mid 1960's. It cost me 8 guineas (£8.40p) to do so. That must have been the bargain of a lifetime!
Sadly for you younger folk, that option is no longer available.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 14.05.16 16:14 UTC

> I compounded my affix for life in the mid 1960's. It cost me 8 guineas (£8.40p) to do so. That must have been the bargain of a lifetime!  Sadly for you younger folk, that option is no longer available.


No kiddin.   Affixes of historic interest within a breed can be kept, for posterity, but otherwise it's pay, pay, pay which is why I have now let ours' lapse.   As said elsewhere, what we had in the UK never really felt like our affix which should have been the one we were granted to use overseas, had KCs had a reciprocal agreement re affixes.   The people in this country who had the same as ours' overseas, registered it, strangely, at around the same time as us.
- By CaroleC [gb] Date 14.05.16 18:03 UTC
It's sad but many of my age group have let their affixes go too. Mine hasn't been used on a litter since '89, but is still in use on my Obed./W.Trial dogs. Unfortunately it couldn't be added to the one that I occasionally show, as she already had her Stud Book No. when I adopted her.

The horse registers seem to work strangly to me. I once bought a pedigree but unregistered Welsh section B yearling and later decided to register him. His breeder said that I should use her affix as part of his name as he was born on her stud. I fully expected the WPCS to send it back, saying that the application should be made by the breeder, but there was no hassle, they just sent me his reg. certificate.
- By Ells-Bells [gb] Date 16.05.16 15:17 UTC
Just got my BRS - looks like its 'Kentixen'
- By Cava14Una Date 16.05.16 22:43 UTC Upvotes 1
Thanks for that:grin:
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