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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Advice after mating please
- By Lindsay Ddbs [gb] Date 31.03.16 21:15 UTC
Hello does anyone give extra vitamins or feed their possibly in pup girl any different .. My girl is fed raw and just wondered if I needed to add anything ? Thank you
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 01.04.16 08:35 UTC
Provided she was on a good quality food BEFORE being mated, wormed and utd with her boosters, then I'd stick to what she has always had.  You don't need her to be fat before whelping and neither do you really need to up what she has until you know how many puppies she has to provide for (after whelping).   You may need to split her daily intake into several small meals, once she increases in size - not much room for food with puppies in there.   The puppies will take all they need both before and after whelping so you only have to worry about her.   But again, provided she is getting a good quality balanced diet now, and through her pregnancy, I'd leave any extras alone until after whelping.

Obviously if she wasn't in tip-top condition when mated, you may need to supplement her - for her own sake, not for the puppies she may be carrying.
- By gsdowner Date 01.04.16 09:52 UTC
I agree with Mamabas. My girls are raw fed and I weaned my first raw litter 15 weeks ago. My girl didn't get massive changes in diet but I did add more oily fish over time. They get 2 tins of sardines or mackerel in oil during the week but i added the odd frozen salmon fillet and an extra tin in the week. I also added eggs.

Once she whelped i put her on 5 meals a day and she went from 700g pd to 1.5kg pd. I also added more fats and didn't over do the offal. My girl went back to her pre pregnancy weight just 2 weeks after whelping and didn't even look like a mum sustaining 9 pups at all other than her undercarriage  being the big giveaway.

hth x
- By Brainless [gb] Date 01.04.16 11:22 UTC
Wow only double?

Mien aren't raw fed but they go from their maintenance levels (which are always low for their size) to 4 times (or more with a big litter over 6 pups) their normal maintenance rations.

This only drops gradually once pups on solids, and stays at double until the bitches coat starts to return (unless bitch seems over weight), and then cut to 1.5 maintenance until coat fully regrown.

In pregnancy I feed maintenance levels until 6 weeks, then I gradually increase to bge5trwen 1.5 - 2 tiems thri normal ration based on the bitches body condition, if it's obvious that the litter is large then it will be double rations by week 8, but if she isn't very big then 1.5 is what I stick with to avoid over large pups as in recent generations/years my pups at birth have tended to be on the big side (10 - 12oz considered average and mine are rarely less than 12oz usually more like 12 - 18oz).
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 01.04.16 15:29 UTC Upvotes 1
Again, I seriously urge you NOT to over-feed your bitch until you know how many she has to feed - ON THE GROUND.   And again, the unborn puppies will take all they need from mum so provided she is on a good QUALITY diet, to sustain her through her pregnancy to whelping, there is honestly NO NEED to be piling on the food.   She'll end up fat and this could make whelping more difficult.   Pregnant wild animals stay lean for good reason.   Allowing the puppies to become too large before whelping can also make for problems.   Mine were usually between 16 and 18 oz at birth which was plenty big enough and again my girls had roughly the same amount, although perhaps I cut back the bulk, upping the protein.   And again, splitting the food into small frequent meals during a 24 hour period in the event of a big litter in there.

Quality food, not necessarily quantity.   After whelping is the time to increase the amount you feed her, correspondingly.
- By mixedpack [gb] Date 01.04.16 18:11 UTC
Normal feeding until 6 weeks then up by about a quarter til whelping, I think the quality of food is most important and fish is very good, fed with the oil from the tin.  Your bitch should be fed by your eye so she is not fat before whelping just nicely covered, my bigger breeds tended to look thin over the backbone in late pregnancy but well covered over the ribs as the weight of the puppies pulls the abdomen down. As soon as the bitch has whelped then I give her as much as she wants within reason, she needs the calories to feed those babies and I carry on until she has weaned and regained a pre-baby weight.
- By JeanSW Date 02.04.16 13:51 UTC
Same as Barbara here.  Mine will easily consume 4 times their normal ration.
- By gsdowner Date 04.04.16 10:53 UTC
I know it seems low Brainless but you need to remember that RAW will always be fed in lower quantities due to the lack of fillers involved. There is a lot less food required to achieve the same levels of nutrition.

I followed RAW feeding guidelines and also adjusted with my own experiences with my bitch - that's the key. KNOW you bitch :)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.04.16 15:59 UTC
Oh I don't disagree that different dogs require different levels of nutrition, all I know is that my good doers (eat less than you'd expect for size, often only around 60 - 75%) require easily 4 times that level when rearing a litter.
- By gsdowner Date 06.04.16 15:16 UTC Upvotes 1
Having re=read my message - thank god you didn't read the last line as it was written and understood it to mean 'your' bitch :)

My lot eat a lot less than they should be getting but then I don't like over weight dogs and they tend to leave it if they are full - sometimes then missing out food for days. Feeding less has resulted in them eating each meal and staying lean - and by lean I mean maintenance weight rather than starving them - in case anyone else reads this and wonders if I am deliberately not feeding them :(
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