Not logged inChampdogs Information Exchange
Forum Breeders Help Search Board Index Active Topics Login

Find your perfect puppy at Champdogs
The UK's leading pedigree dog breeder website for over 25 years

Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Collie Car Chasing - Help Needed
- By Admin (Administrator) Date 01.02.16 12:25 UTC
FB question received:

"I have a 16 week border collie. He chases cars which I know is very typical of a collie but I have yet found a distraction that works.
He becomes so focus and as the cars pass he runs for them. It's not great for me and I get tugged, it's not good for him as he's getting pulled back and it's certainly not pleasant for the drivers as a few drivers have got a fright thinking he's going run on the road.
I have tried high value treats (breast of chicken and sausages) and I've tried his most favourite squeaky toy but once he sees a car everything falls on deaf ears.

Does anyone have advice on how to try stop this? Does a clicker work? That's the only thing I've not tried but I've not worked with a clicker before and I feel if a high pitched squeak of his toy doesn't work, a clicker wouldn't be much use.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks."
- By Tectona [gb] Date 01.02.16 22:20 UTC
Clickers don't work like that. The noise is not a distraction but a marker for a correct behaviour. They need to find a good (positive) trainer to show them what they should be doing. They should be starting far enough away from traffic that the dog is under threshold (before he reacts).
- By Harley Date 01.02.16 23:10 UTC Upvotes 3
I have a rescue collie who is a car chaser and is work in progress. When he first came to me I daren't walk him anywhere near a road as he would lunge at the cars - the first time he did it he was double leaded and on a harness but it was a very scary experience.

I walked him in areas that were nowhere near roads at all - he wasn't used to walking on a lead and I had to tackle that problem first. Once he was able to walk fairly  nicely on a lead I had to start addressing the problem. I taught him a "watch me" command and armed with pocketfuls of treats I found a quiet road where I could stand 50 odd feet away and when a car started to approach us I got his attention with a treat and used the watch me command. As the car was at a good distance he did watch me and then when he turned his head to look at the car I used the watch me command again and rewarded him turning his head away from the car and back to me. It took weeks for him to hear a car and choose to look at me rather than the car - and I still did this from the same 50 feet distance. Over many months I was able to gradually move closer to the road and keep him within his comfort zone.

Once he was able to ignore passing cars from a distance of about 15 feet I moved to a busier road but at a much greater distance and began the process all over again - we didn't walk next to it just sat. When he was comfortable with this I then started to take him in the evening to a local small industrial estate - being the evening there was little traffic and most of it was moving fairly slowly - and I introduced walking with him alongside the traffic but still at a distance from it and rewarding every time he turned his head from watching an approaching vehicle to watching me. I made sure that we were always facing the approaching traffic so he could see it coming towards him as it was on his side of the road - traffic approaching from behind us and on the same side of the road as us was too much of a temptation. Chasing traffic is self rewarding - "the car disappears when chased".

I have now reached the stage with him where he can walk beside a busy road as long as there is at least 4--5 feet between him and the traffic. If it is wet and the car tyres are making a swooshing sound he still finds it hard to ignore the traffic but I am far less restricted as to where I can walk him now but would never, ever let him off lead anywhere where there is moving traffic within his eyesight because the thrill of the chase would probably be too much for him to resist and apart from the danger it would also put all his training back to square one.

It is a long, slow process - I have had him for three years this month. He was a farm dog who lived in a very rural area and spent the first year of his life on a chain so he had no socialisation at all and to relieve the boredom he would chase anything that moved. He is very toy orientated but I can't use a toy for a reward with the traffic training as it makes him excited and I am teaching him to be calm so need a reward that he values highly but that doesn't raise his excitement levels.

I have also taught him to walk on either side of me so I can always put myself between him and the traffic.

It takes a lot of patience and time but your dog is young so you have youth on his side and he hasn't been indulging in the habit for a long time - don't put him in a position that takes him over his threshold, stay patient and be consistent. If you start to progress to being closer to the traffic and he can't cope with it take a step back and go back to a distance that he is comfortable with and slow the process down a bit.

Wishing you luck with it - walking a traffic reactive dog can be very stressful.
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 04.02.16 18:28 UTC
Tectona
find a good (positive) trainer

What do you mean by "positive" trainer? are you using "positive" in the normal sense of the word or something else? thanks.
.
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 04.02.16 19:14 UTC
Admin/FB Quote:
it's not good for him as he's getting pulled back

This Amazon link to Hallgrens study on damage caused by leash pulling should be of interest, its only the abstract but contains the most important thing is the % of dogs damaged which were subject pulling....

Quote:
"One of the most alarming findings was that as many as 91 % of the dogs that had been pulled hard on the leash or themselves had been pulling hard, were found to have defects in the neck!"

http://amzn.to/1Qfxykw
.
- By has2tri [gb] Date 24.04.16 06:36 UTC
Anyone have advice on this for a deaf puppy. I have sat at the end of the road with him and he is absolutely fine but when we are walking, I am guessing that as he cant hear them when they catch his eye they are very very appealing.

I will admit I havent tried anything else as yet but I will be trying the food distraction technique as this pup will eat anything :)
- By furriefriends Date 24.04.16 11:11 UTC
Some good advice given here . Woth a deaf dog I wpudl be looking for advice from a trainer who has trained deaf dogs before unless there is anyone here.  I wpudl imagine it'd about u seeing tje cars before her and getting the attention of tje dog and then treating as the car goes past as a start point. Training a watch me command with hand signals woudl be useful.  positive training that doesn't involve force or fear is  the way forward with all dogs and what I woudl be looking for in a trainer
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Collie Car Chasing - Help Needed

Powered by mwForum 2.29.6 © 1999-2015 Markus Wichitill

About Us - Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy