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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / overly demanding pup
- By gsdowner Date 04.01.16 14:31 UTC
I have started weaning my 3 week old pups but one never seems to be satisfied.

They are being fed 3 times a day and having around 2 tbsp of beef mixed with lactol. All the other pups are happy, will eat, feed from mum and fall asleep.

This particular pup seems constantly restless, always itching to climb out of the box and noisy. She is a good eater, healthy, one of the heaviest and lively.

I am not sure if she is hungry or just wants out to explore. She is not wanting to suckle when she is restless.

Do I feed her as and when she demands it or stick to timings? She is full when she eats with the others.  I don't particularly want her out of the box yet to explore as  she finds the stupidest places to explore. None of the other pups are remotely interested in wandering about.
- By debbo198 [eu] Date 04.01.16 20:43 UTC Upvotes 1
I'll be really interested in what experienced breeders say about this.

is it because it's hungry or just very forward and adventurous?
if feeding extra and it's a need for adventure would it form a, possible lifelong habit, of eating for compensation - leading to an overweight pup/dog?
Would a breeder tell a prospective buyer about this?
How would a prospective buyer ask about this, and other things?

I want to know what questions to ask if/when I go for a pup.

Hope this is not too far off your topic gsdowner.

Btw I saw an  ad for GSD pups a week or so ago (on a popular dogs for sale site) that I drooled over - talked about health, feeding, socialisation etc in loads of detail - i wished I could have had one they sounded so well thought through and brought up, from well before birth.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 05.01.16 09:47 UTC
Provided this puppy is gaining daily, produced good stools and not vomiting either, I'd stick to what you are feeding, and when.   It sounds as if she's just as you say - demanding.  Have you checked that she's not dehydrated (tenting test).  I do think perhaps they need 4 meals a day plus mum at this point, but if she's the ony one who is fussy, I'd suggest this is just her - sell her, although if she is outgoing, and good enough, she may make an excellent show dog!
- By gsdowner Date 05.01.16 11:09 UTC
Thanks mamabas

They cannot cope with more food yet as they are struggling with 3 feeds. She is screaming now and has been for the last half hour. She is gaining (8g since last night) still feeding off mum and desperate to get out. She simply wants to do her own thing. Even if I brought her out to sit with me she'd fuss. All she wants is to be allowed to wander as she pleases. Even her mum is ignoring her. She gets to the point where the others nap and then wake up to join in.

No way will she be the one staying as I can already see her ruining my pack's stability! There is a gorgeous quiet girly who looks as though she might be the one.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.01.16 12:00 UTC
I agree that 4 meals should be fed, mine get this from the 4th day of introducing semi solids, even when only taking tiny amounts.
- By rabid [gb] Date 05.01.16 12:33 UTC
Do puppies get something like colic, like human babies do?!
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 05.01.16 13:57 UTC Edited 05.01.16 14:00 UTC

> Do puppies get something like colic, like human babies do?!


http://www.petcarejournal.com/puppy-colic.html

They can.   And the possibility of her not eliminating as she should might be worth checking.  

Perhaps it's time to have your vet to examine her - as a rule, a quiet content puppy is a puppy who is getting all they need at this stage.   It would be easy to go to she's fussing (which is still possible) but if this is ongoing and she's not settling, I might start looking for another reasons??
- By gsdowner Date 05.01.16 14:46 UTC
Well...she's bored.

Have had her out and played with her. She then had a suckle and has been sleeping since.

Brainless, today would only be the 3rd day since having raw through the day. They had their 1st taste sunday night. So will introduce more food over the next couple of days. Did think panacur may be the culprit to begin with...
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.01.16 17:04 UTC
A friend had a puppy like this crying after feeding and had been pooed and peed, and a little gripe water (Woodwards which has dill) and burping like a baby helped.
- By rabid [gb] Date 05.01.16 17:34 UTC Upvotes 1
I have an adult dog who always is unsettled and uncomfortable (tummy ache, I think) when wormed, whatever wormer is used. 

So it could well be the Panacur??
- By gsdowner Date 05.01.16 18:19 UTC
Although she has slept all afternoon I have called hubby and asked him to pick up a bottle of gripe water on his way home tonight. The pups are going on their own regarding toileting  but did try toileting her and she did urinate but nothing else. She is happy in herself apart from constantly trying to escape :)

Only tonight to go with the panacur and then again in 2 weeks
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.01.16 19:57 UTC Upvotes 2
Have you got a potential working home lined up, seems likely to be a very worky pup.
- By gsdowner Date 05.01.16 23:31 UTC Upvotes 2
Yes, she is likely to go and work with one of the men my husband is training, she and a boy are both showing very high drive potential at the moment alongside another male and female pup. If we keep the one I'm hoping will fit in and a neighbour has one (lost their girl a year ago but worrying about their own age), that only leaves 3 for my waiting list!
- By Charlie Brown [gb] Date 09.01.16 06:52 UTC
I too have one that's constantly trying to escape..... Nothing pacifies her at all.

She wasn't too bad until they all started having a wander out and an explore, now she's just unsettled and wants to be out exploring all the time.

She tries to scramble over the pen and cries and cries because she can't get.....until she's exhausted and falls asleep!

She's going to her new home this weekend, I'm thinking that with a change of environment and one to one she'll settle down.

She was one I thought of as a keeper but with her demanding personality it just wouldn't work out with the rest of the pack!
- By lkj [gb] Date 09.01.16 12:15 UTC
gsdowner, you said something interesting about a potential buyer being concerned about their own age.  Would you be able to tell me that age bracket?
- By gsdowner Date 11.01.16 02:30 UTC
Both are over 65 but very, very active. They'd love another gsd but worry it may out live them.

Personally, they are just the type of puppy parents I'd give my right arm for. We still have to discuss things but as my pups go with lifetime support. Should anything happen to either or both of them, I will happily have their baby back, regardless of age.

I think they're beginning to feel their mortality.
- By gsdowner Date 11.01.16 02:32 UTC
That's why this one will be homed. Her mother is already a bossy mare...don't really need her daughter turning out even worse!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.01.16 01:52 UTC Upvotes 2
Age is a number. 

My father at 81 is still fixing his car driving long distances, doing heavy DIY/Garden work and can out walk my husband any day.

We have a friend who is 10 years younger looks and acts older, and should not be behind the wheel of a car.

His mother who died at 83 had dementia for the last five years of her life.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / overly demanding pup

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