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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / litter with dodgy poops
- By Noora Date 03.08.15 18:07 UTC
I have a litter of 4.5 week old puppies with a dodgy tummy. They had a bug a week ago and as a consequence missed the 4 week worming and have not yet got it as tummies still not normal.

They had a bug as poops stinked and we're watery& they run a temperature.
Now, all are acting normal but still have loose poops and lot of muscus and what I can only describe jelly poops. Some are just a little jelly that comes out. They are raw fed and I have already cut down the portion size to see if that was causing the looseness. I'm also just feeding chicken but again, no difference to poops with just that. They had normal tummies when I started to wean them and till the bug.

My vet is telling to hold worming till normal poops but could the jelly/muscus actually be caused by worms? We are a week down the road and still having issues,  not had anything this long lasting from diarrhea before and don't know what I could try to mend the situation.
- By BeaBea [gb] Date 03.08.15 21:01 UTC
Hello. I have fed raw to puppies and found a small amount of natural probiotic yoghurt helped with the addition of very finely grated apple.
- By suejaw Date 03.08.15 21:14 UTC
While mine have been mainly on complete I have introduced raw and they all got dicky tummy's from the minced chicken which had been frozen.
Wonder whether it's possibly chicken upsetting them?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 04.08.15 07:22 UTC
I'd agree with the natural live yogurt.  Jelly poop is a sign of colitis.  The gut has been irritated, and has also lost it's natural flora.
- By epmp [us] Date 04.08.15 07:54 UTC
Sainsbury's sell natural goats milk yoghurt, it's great for settling upset tums and returning the good/bad bacteria balance in the gut
- By Noora Date 05.08.15 08:42 UTC
I thought I replied already! Must have forgotten to post.
I have given them probiotics already but will get the goats milk yogurt to try to settle their tums.
They had the chicken mince fine before the bug so doubt it is that but I will try another meat they have had.
I have discussed sample to be sent off with the vet if no difference. I thought they might be getting better yesterday but today seen few very jelly poops again.
- By bucksmum [gb] Date 05.08.15 09:11 UTC
Camplyobactor causes mucousy stools....could be a possibility if fed raw chicken.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.08.15 14:43 UTC
Stool sample testing may be the way forward. 

Could be Campo.

Could it be Giardia another cause. 

For this a 7 day half dose course of Panacur will kill the parasites.
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 07.08.15 19:11 UTC
My litter was wormed at 3, 5 and 7 weeks all solid poos on Orijen and after 2 had been in their new homes they had runny poos (but not actually ill). Eventually both were diagnosed with coccidiosis and had to be on ABs. The vets need 3 days of poo to test.
- By Noora Date 07.08.15 21:15 UTC
Sample has been sent off, still waiting for results. They got little better but then really runny again:sad:
All still acting not ill but it is starting to show on their weight so I hope we get to the bottom of it soon.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.08.15 09:02 UTC Edited 08.08.15 09:04 UTC

> Eventually both were diagnosed with coccidiosis


http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2102&aid=727

I knew I'd forgotten one of the dire rear causing bugs.

Not surprising it showed up in change of home as compromised or stressed immune system will mean symptoms more likely to manifest.
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 09.08.15 17:28 UTC
I'd NEVER heard of it or had it diagnosed before in 20+ years of breeding. My vets were quite matter of fact about it (aka s**t happens attitude) but one owners vet said it can reoccur as an adult. Meanwhile I'm left with questions on how to sanitise grass?  I already steam clean living areas, concrete and all toys.
- By Noora Date 11.08.15 14:59 UTC
Bucks mum you got it right.
Pups are now all doing Ok but us humans got it now! Which I suppose with pups on our lounge even with hand washing etc is not total surprise...
- By bucksmum [gb] Date 11.08.15 16:05 UTC
Sorry to hear this but at least you know! Campy can be very resistant to antibiotics especially Erythromycin.It is however vunerable to garlic so you could add some to food..... Not large quantities as it is poisonous if given too much for too long but for a week I would give an adult 1clove a day and scale down for Pups.

I would also give garlic to family members.
- By Noora Date 12.08.15 00:13 UTC
Not been given antibiotics anyways, just told to ride it out with the humans ( not making us too sick luckily) & pups are totally normal now so one more leaflet to the book of experience!
Never heard of it before as in transferring between species - pups&family having a bug...
Don't know who got it first either, I the main carer of the pups am still ok, rest of the family has it!
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / litter with dodgy poops

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