Hi everyone, it doesn't matter how many times i do this, i always get a bit panicked at this stage. My girl is on day 58 today and her waters broke 2 hours ago. We have no contractions, a little bit of heavy panting but no progress. She has eaten and gone to sleep!!

I just called the vet and he said if she is happy and calm then leave her for another hour.

So, my question is - how long is too long after waters have gone and there is no progress?

Lucy

I'd agree with the vet 3 hours no progress need to see vet.

Hopefully the car ride will bring a  pup along so you need an assistant with whelping kit, a  box with a hot water bottle for pups.

That's exactly what did happen Brainless! I left it for the extra hour then loaded her into the truck, 10 mins down the road and out came her first puppy.....

I just wanted to share my experience as for the first time i experienced a true breech pup. This was the very last pup and i felt slightly panicked when i realised it was a bottom and tail coming out first. I tried to have a feel for legs but they were well and truly tucked under and it was a big pup, no room to jiggle it about. It was totally stuck.

Mum was getting herself in a bit of a state as she just couldn't push him out. I can remember reading on here, a long time ago that if you have a pup stuck to have a syringe full of lubricant and to try and squeeze it up past the pup (JEAN SW i think). There was no room for the syringe so i filled a feeding tube and used that instead, put a fair amount in and on the next two pushes he came unstuck!!

It's amazing what pieces of information stay in your mind when you need them. We have a happy healthy mum and 9 beautiful babies ;-)

What a great tip. Absolute genius.

> I can remember reading on here, a long time ago that if you have a pup stuck to have a syringe full of lubricant and to try and squeeze it up past the pup (JEAN SW i think).

I've used the technique for donkeys years.

It's great ain't it? 

Well done on a good re4sult, and al live litter.