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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Toilet training he just doesn't get it !!!!
- By goat Date 30.01.15 21:20 UTC
Hi all happy weekend and boy I am glad it is the weekend because it has been a long week.  I have had my Dachshund for two weeks now and he is wonderful but here's the thing, toilet training, he just doesn't get it.  I know it is early days and I am being really patient but I have been taking him out every 15-30 mins for wees, after play, before and after eating and yet he isn't getting the hang is things.  I don't know why he isn't filing to the door he prefers to do both Indoors but it is the poohs that are catching me out because he just goes I don't get much warning.  How oh how can I help my pup understand that he needs to go to the front door and wine if he wants the toilet?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 30.01.15 21:43 UTC
None of mine obviously ask to go out, and I prefer they don't as I don't want them training me by barking at the door every time they have a whim to go out.

The most I get is being stared at or standing near the door quietly, but mostly they get sent out to go fairly frequently and in good weather the door stays open, unless they are barky.

You just need to take him out when he is likely to need to go or starts sniffing looking fro a place.

He won't have full voluntary bladder control until he is about 5 months, poos are usually quicker.

Dachs owners have told me that as a breed they can be harder to housetrain than many breeds.
- By Tricolours [gb] Date 30.01.15 22:21 UTC Edited 30.01.15 22:25 UTC
My two dogs don't wine when they stand at the door waiting to go out and I wouldn't want them to either. You have been very persistent in training and that is the way forward. Can someone else take over taking them out if only for the weekend to give you a break. When my dogs were babies as yours are now I kept them with me every waking moment so that I could keep an eye on what they were doing as I didn't want them chewing on just anything, and I kept a look out when I thought they might want to toilet. My dogs when puppies used to sniff the carpet when they wanted to toilet that's when I would rush them outside and when they did do it outside lots of praise and strokes were given.
The modern way today is to use a cage but I can't comment on that as I have never used them.
- By dogs a babe Date 30.01.15 22:25 UTC
At 2 weeks you are asking too much too soon.  He's just a baby and has so much to learn in these early days.  Don't forget that the move from his small nest with his litter mates is a huge change for a small chap and he needs time to adjust to your routines, just as you need time to adjust to his.

Are you using a pee pen in your communal garden?  This is a very simple way to help your pup get the hang of things

It can also help to keep a diary.  Pups are very predictable in the early days and the time from input to output is usually pretty regular.  Just make a note of mealtimes etc and make sure to take your pup out every time he wakes up too
- By JeanSW Date 30.01.15 23:19 UTC
Blimey!  You're expecting a bit much after 2 weeks.  And males do need far more wees than bitches, as they don't empty their bladders all in one go.  It is far too early to expect for him to ask to go out.  He won't do that until he knows that he's supposed to go outdoors.  And he definitely won't understand that just yet. 

I always say that smaller breeds can take up to 8 months to get it right.  I'm assuming that you're staying with him outside?  If so make sure that you go really overboard when he does go outside.  I really do make a huge fuss over any little wee or poo.  For sure, being really patient is going to be needed for far longer than 2 weeks.
- By Tricolours [gb] Date 31.01.15 07:45 UTC
What's a pee pen look like?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 31.01.15 07:54 UTC Upvotes 2
It's just a small fenced-off area to put the puppy into so it learns that's the particular toileting area. After a few weeks you take the pen away, as the pup's learned that's the area of the garden to toilet in.
- By Tricolours [gb] Date 31.01.15 07:59 UTC
Thanks Jeangenie.
- By suejaw Date 31.01.15 10:13 UTC
Asking to go out this early is a huge ask, it's not anything I've trained my dogs to do.
It is staying outside until he's gone. You may have to spend longer and lots of praise. If he normally goes a little longer after play and feeding etc then maybe wait 5 mins after these events and then take him out?
Toilet training in some breeds can take months and let's be honest if they don't get it then it's our fault and not the puppy.
- By Goldmali Date 31.01.15 11:00 UTC
I have 21 dogs. Only TWO of them will let me know if they need to go out, and of those two, only one will whine. :) So it's a question of making sure to let them out regularly. Most dogs don't ask.

I'm very pleased with my latest pup as he is now 5 months old and already very reliable in the house -not had an accident for a couple of weeks. I think that is early, but was he one of my toydogs, I'd not expect a thing for weeks yet.
- By goat Date 31.01.15 11:05 UTC
A pee pen is a fab idea we have communal gardens so I'm not sure how others would feel about this but I might be able to get away with it :-)
I am keeping a diary of poohs but not wees for wees he goes out every 15-20 mins and even his poohs are unpredictable.  When he does either I give him a treat and heaps if praise but he doesn't seem to bothered either for the great or for the praise he is really very funny.  I will carry on he is only little and I never ever tell him off for going in our home I just clear it up and spray with the enzymatic pet spray and carry on as normal.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 31.01.15 18:02 UTC Upvotes 1

> A pee pen is a fab idea we have communal gardens so I'm not sure how others would feel about this but I might be able to get away with it :-)


If you point to your fellow garden users that you want tor train pup to go only in one area of the garden, that you can then keep extra clean, then I am sure they will be pleased as they won't be worrying about him going everywhere.
- By dogs a babe Date 31.01.15 20:37 UTC
As Brainless has said I'm sure your neighbours would appreciate it.  The pen is also nothing more than 4 sides of rigid wire mesh that can be picked up and moved around or folded up and left in an out of the way area if required.  Have a look at Croft Puppy Panels and check out puppy play pens online.

The beauty of a pen like this is that your pup soon learns that a quick toilet means a faster exit and more time in the garden to play.  It also means that anyone can toilet train.  My pups would happily go out with my teenage children and neither pup nor children would get distracted until the deed was done!
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Toilet training he just doesn't get it !!!!

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