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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Microchipping 800grm hairless puppy?
- By D4wn [gb] Date 10.11.14 13:43 UTC
Hi. I've just bought a gorgeous crestie x pug puppy who is now 10 weeks old and weighed 800grms last Thursday.
I want her microchipped but I'm worried about the size of the needle!
Are there any owners/breeders of tiny toy dogs that can give me sny advice please.
- By Tommee Date 10.11.14 13:47 UTC
They should be using a "mini" chip on dogs whose adult weight will be under 15 kgs
- By Goldmali Date 10.11.14 13:50 UTC
I have chipped Papillon pups smaller than this and they have not seemed to feel it at all, but when they get vaccinated they scream the place down. The needle is extremely sharp for microchipping so isn't easily felt -although of course it varies between individuals. (I accidentally chipped my thumb once and never felt it at all.) If you are worried, see if your vet or a nearby implanter have the smaller sized chips.
- By D4wn [gb] Date 10.11.14 13:58 UTC
I'm taking her for a puppy check tomorrow, she was vaccinated with her breeder last Thursday, she won't have her 2nd vacc for another 3 weeks or so.
I saw the mini chips online but finding someone in my area who.uses them seems impossible.
My vet has advised waiting until she is older as he only has regular chips.
Will being hairless make a difference?????
- By Goldmali Date 10.11.14 15:04 UTC
My vet has advised waiting until she is older as he only has regular chips.

I think that is foolish of the vet, as she could get lost or stolen and it always pays to take as many precautions as only possible. When the new law comes in  all pups MUST be chipped before 8 weeks of age (and before sold) so vets can then no longer say this. I've never used the smaller chips. My smallest adult dog weighs 2 kilos (and I'd guess yours will end up quite a bit bigger than this) and apart from my Papillons (and the bigger dogs) I  have also chipped literally dozens of kittens. I tend to do my Papillons at about 7 weeks and kittens at 9 or 10. I have however done Papillons at 4 weeks for one litter when one pup was going abroad and it was urgent to know chip number for all paperwork ASAP. I have never had a problems with toy dogs, if chips move it has always been in the big dogs and the cats.

I can't see being hairless making a difference, if anything it should be slightly easier to chip as the fur isn't in the way and there will be a clear view.
- By JeanSW Date 10.11.14 23:06 UTC

>My vet has advised waiting until she is older as he only has regular chips.


I have a tiny toy breed and unlike Marianne, I won't chip until the pups 6 month health check.  My vet prefers pups to be larger before chipping.  I have very good security, but I've never had anyone attempt to steal my dogs.  My vet does me a price deal where I pay for both vaccinations and for the chip at the same time.  Except the chip gets done when they go in for their 6 month free puppy health check.  This suits my needs as it is about the right age for getting the mouth checked.  I have a breed that often needs a little help as they do tend to have retained milk teeth.

You asked for advice from people with toy breeds and you have found that you will always get varying advice.  :-)
- By D4wn [gb] Date 11.11.14 01:06 UTC
Thanks for every ones replies.

I have quite a secure garden but would still prefer to chip her asap just in case.
She is very small considering she is crestie x pug and both breeds are usually a lot bigger at 10 weeks apparently.
I would like her to get to 10lbs but I think she may only get to about 5lbs. I'm going to ask about the mini chips but in any event I think I'll wait until her 2nd vaccination at least to chip.
The vet where her breeder lived wouldn't vaccinate her at 8 weeks nor chip her. I'm thinking this was more the fact she is small for breed/breeds rather than the fact she weighed only 500grms at the time.
JeanSW....yes we all have differing opinions but it's good to know that tiny pups can manage with being chipped early even if I will probably wait a while. It's good to hear all the different views as I have usually had big breeds. Klaus-Oleg is the first small dog I have owned intentionally.

Marianne.....thankyou for letting me know the tinies can be chipped at an early age.....I have a feeling I will probably feel it more than Klaus-Oleg when I do decide to have her done.

One more question........At what age is it best to get her spayed? I always had my bitches spayed between 6-9 months but again they were a lot bigger than this puppy.

- By JeanSW Date 11.11.14 22:47 UTC

>One more question........At what age is it best to get her spayed? I always had my bitches spayed between 6-9 months but again they were a lot bigger than this puppy.


OMG!!!!!  6-9 months for a spay?  I don't think you will get many differing views on this one.  No, no, no DO NOT spay this early.  I don't have my toy breed spayed until they are 4 years of age, but understand that you would want to have yours done earlier.  Wait until her insides have finished growing before messing about with her hormones.  And at least let her have one season before spaying.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.11.14 17:44 UTC
A cancer specialist in dogs quoted in a recent art8icel stated ideally the hormonal benefits will have been obtained by Two years of age. 

Quoting the world's top veterinarian Cancer Doctor, Dr. Damian Dressler (dogcancerblog.com): "Most dogs reach sexual maturity at about 24 months approximately at the fourth heat in females at this point in their development dogs have received the protective benefit of adult sexual hormones and are at a decreased risk for cancers mentioned above.

There really should not be that much difficulty keeping such a small dog safe from males whilst in season by crating, in a multi sex canine household, or simply sticking to the house and garden during seasons..
- By D4wn [gb] Date 12.11.14 20:34 UTC
I only have one other dog and he's castrated, ancient as well, I've always had my bitches spayed early simply because the different vets I've used advised me to.
Although I have no interest in breeding I don't mind waiting to spay Klaus. In fact the vet I saw today when going for my daughters dogs medication said wait until Klaus is over 2 years old so obviously different vets give different advice!
She will never be near an unneutered  males when she comes in season as no family members have entire dogs of either sex.
After speaking to the vet today she is having her 2nd vacc in 3 weeks and she will be chipped then as well, so 4 months old, they only do the normal chip though............the vet says she will be fine. I'm just a eorrywort with her been my first real little one.
On the up side she has put 200grms on so is not so scrawny now and will hopefully be 3lbs+ in 3 weeks.
- By Lynneb [gb] Date 12.11.14 22:24 UTC
Defo not neuter until fully mature as they need the hormones to mature correctly.
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 18.11.14 08:22 UTC
I have sphynx cats who are chipped. The one thing that I've seen with hairless breeds is that you can often see the chip under the skin. I'm pleased to say you can't with my 3 but I always have a friend who is a trained microchipper do my  puppies and she chipped my cats. I feel she does a much better job than my vets. The only chip I've had done by them has moved down my dog's leg!!!
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