Bitch is 25 days possibly pregnant she had a discharge creamy pinkinsh last week and been on a course of synolux today they scanned and said they couldnt see anything her uterine hornes had some fluid but not huge, now they want to flush her with alzin the discharge is still pinkish and globby/stringy temp is normal 101.8 , still enjoying her walks but being picky eating, drinking fine
any experiance on this my head is bursting as this litter is much wanted health tested etc

Question is the Vet a reproductive specialist, or even have much knowledge of breeding bitches???

Sounds like the panic my friend was put through with perfectly normal pregnancy discharge. 

We all told her to hang fire and have AB's if the vet really was worried but with no smell from the discharge, bitch well in herself, we were proved right and a lovely normal size litter duly arrived.

No smell to the discharge I want to wait ask them to do tge relaxin test vet is just a locum

Well if my friend had listened to the vet she would have spayed the bitch and not had the litter, which would have been a loss to the breed when only about 10 litters a year are currently being bred.

Remember the relaxin test can give false negatives.  Some Amazon reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Canine-Pregnancy-Test-Kit-tests/product-reviews/B00076NOB4

14 of 15 people found the following review helpful

2.0 out of 5 stars  Disappointed in Accuracy, October 17, 2009

"By

Crystal Golliday "LOVABULLDOG" (South Carolina USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Canine Pregnancy Test Kit (5 tests) (Misc.)

I researched this product and it's reviews before purchase. I initial used this test on my bulldog at 25 days from last breeding with a negative result. I waited a week(as manufacture recommends) and re-tested with still a negative result. By the 35th day from breeding she was beginning to show signs of pregnancy and after an ultra-sound was confirmed pregnant (by visual and heartbeats). All three tests was preformed by my vet at $15.00 per blood drawl/spin and $35.00 for the ultra-sound.

What you should know before purchasing/using this test:
The amount of relaxin (serum relaxin level) being produced at the time of the tests depends on the breed, the size of the breed, the size of the litter, LH(luteinizing hormone) surge and when the test is preformed.

For example: If the litter is small there may not be enough relaxin being produced to react with the test. The same would be true if it is a small breed or preformed to early.

I now believe the best option for my female bulldogs in the future will be an ultra-sound as recommended by my vet."

In USA people can buy a lot of medications without prescription and do some procedures themselves legally.

previous THREAD http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/108519.html

I felt she was too quick suggesting it last week but the other vet who has bred said she was happy on abs with the discharge coming away I asked for scan and relaxin , the scan today at 25days 2 vets ummed and ahhed then said they couldnt see anything I thought its still too early for it to be conclusive and wait the vet who suggested alzin the week before said no, when I quieried what was going on inside she said horns had a little bit of fluid but not huge mass like pyo so basically reset her, weve had pyo before another bitch hers was green then turned brown fast and smelled

UK supplier http://vetlabsupplies.co.uk/products/fastest-relaxin/

I dont know im thinking to rescan 

Scan results really do depend so much on the skill of the scanner.

25 days would be soon enough for someone really good at scanning assuming the bitch took right away.

On the other hand your bitch might only be at the attachment stage (when the discharge seems to be seen most often) and only 18 - 21 days pregnant, as sperm can live in the bitches tract for a few days before conception.

As the second vet said wait and see.

I agree im not ready to lose this potential litter yet

I had a bitch get pyometra 14 days after being mated, earlier this year. It was obvious. She didn't eat, she had a discharge (too early to be a pregnancy one), she was quiet and unhappy and had a high temperature.

I had another pyometra last year, no mating involved and there the bitch was acting 100 % normal, BUT she was bleeding AND again high temperature.

It was the high temperature in both cases that really told us the most.

Her temp hasnt gone above 102.5
shes being picky with food but my thoughts are pregnancy symptoms, shes bothering my other girl to play however she does go a bit mooney after a season todays temp  was 101.8 last nights roughly the same , still drinking fine aswell

Ok im going to hold the vet off and get keith s to scan how do people rate him on accuracy

Shes staying on anti biotics and booked in with keith next week

Good luck!

I hope so this has been 2 years in planning

Couldnt see anything on scan so negative its been reccomended a swab and anti biotics and to monitor her any one think she still maybe preg im debating the relaxin test

Exactly - high fever!!  Blood test?  Adding in the week or so to the end of her season, she's hardly started a pregnancy much as it is possible she's picked up an infection from the stud dog - is he a popular one???

No temp eating as ive said had pyo before its not the same not a heavily used stud either

Swab done now its a waiting game

I hope it's as my friend found alarmist vets, with little experience of the details of canine pregnancy, alarming you.

I would like to bet that by five weeks after mating you will be able to confirm pregnancy by scan.

I hope so brainless I hope so