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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Out turned feet
- By louiseqm2 [gb] Date 10.08.14 12:26 UTC
I have a 8 month old frenchie , his feet are really badly out-turned , I did ask my vet about it when he was younger , but was told its a frenchie characteristic , but I have another two frenchies and they are not like that , is it something that can be rectified? Will it cause him problems as he gets older and heavier?
- By chaumsong Date 10.08.14 12:46 UTC Edited 10.08.14 12:59 UTC
In a lot of cases it's simply an inherited cosmetic fault, will be penalised in the show ring but won't cause any problems at all to the dog. It's a hard fault to breed out, if you're breeding for show dogs then it's best not to breed from dogs with 'ten to two' fronts, doesn't make a jot of difference in working dogs.

This picture is a good example of two dogs whose feet turn out, the one on the left had terrible arthritis and the wrist joints just collapsed eventually, her feet turned out due to the problem, they were straight as a youngster. The one on the right is a very fit and healthy 12 year old, her feet turned out since she was born out but it doesn't affect her at all. Can we have a photo of yours to see?
- By louiseqm2 [gb] Date 10.08.14 14:47 UTC
My dogs feet and legs look almost deformed in comparison to your photo ... I will upload a photo if I can work out how to do it! Haha , as you say it doesn't seem to affect him ..at the moment anyway .. Was wondering if was something that could be corrected ?
- By triona [gb] Date 10.08.14 16:59 UTC
From my experience in large breeds towing out if not heriditory can also be caused from the uneven growth of the long bones in the dogs front legs. Once the dog reaches 12 months old and the crucial height growing period is over then it usually straightens back up. If it is heritary then there isn't much you can do.

You need a Frenchie specialist to come on and give advice ;)
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 11.08.14 10:33 UTC
I will upload a photo if I can work out how to do it!

You would need to upload it to a online somewhere like a photo sharing site like photobucket, flickr ect then post a link to the pic here.
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 12.08.14 11:42 UTC
One of my Cavalier's feet turns out almost like that, she has been like it since birth, she was a singleton and when born by c-section as labour didn't start naturally her front feet were curled right underneath and she was crawling on her knuckles. I kept straightening and placing them correctly and in a week or so they did improve, but whether this toeing out is the legacy or a construction fault she would have had anyway who knows. She can and does stand with them straight, just not all the time!
- By louiseqm2 [gb] Date 12.08.14 23:46 UTC
I've tried to upload via photobucket but I'm such a technophobe .got nowhere😤 !! I'm not on Facebook etc .. So can't do photos I'm afraid
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 13.08.14 07:40 UTC
I don't know about Frenchies specifically and this, but for sure, although supposed to have some degree of 'turn out', the Basset suffers from a condition called premature closure of the growth plates which can mean either radius or ulna stops growing before the other, causing the front legs to 'twist'.   My most recent, bought in, Basset was lame at around the same age as your dog.   I had him to my vet who, given the various problems Bassets can have, decided to x-ray him front to back.   Everything was ruled out apart from premature closure of the growth plates, ulna, both sides.   It can be operated on, but in his case, could have meant more than one operation as he grew, and wasn't necessarily going to correct the resulting problem.   Bowing and too much turn out, even for the Basset!    I opted not to have surgery done, with the warning he could develop arthritis later on.   Up to now (4.5 years), he's been fine but has been having intermittent lameness of late which it's felt, could be down to involvement of the elbow now caused by the strain on that part of his front from the original 'sin'.   I was so hoping to get back in the ring with him, but I can't take a dog with that degree of turn out into the ring...... even if I've seen worse being shown!   If he goes lame again, he will be x-rayed and depending on what shows up, we take it from there ....... I am slightly suspicious about what's going on - he goes lame, and after overnight crate rest only, is sound as a bell the next morning.   Has his microchip moved!!!?

Bottom line - you can only be advised by your examining vet (and his breeder?) re what you do about what's going on.  And yes, just as with Frankie, there could be 'problems' later on ..... but not necessarily!   Especially if you keep him to a sensible exercise regeme, and watch his weight.
Topic Dog Boards / Health / Out turned feet

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