Just watching this now, so far its people who own pitbulls, one guy who has his for protection, one who use to use his for that but now is a pet, and now one lady who keeps them as pets

What channel?

channel 5, started at 9

5

the commentator keeps saying and illeagle pitbull so and nothing about any dog being exempted and all so far have been walking them out in public with no muzzle and some off lead so im assuming none of the dogs are on the exempted dogs register.

oh just now the lady owner wants to make the leagle so she is going to try to get them exempted.
But her younger one has escaped and is being attacked by her older as they don't get on the older one was bred for fighting apperantly.

How dumb can people be ?, if I had an illegal breed, I sure as hell wouldn't be parading around on the tv.

Celli if you had a dangerous dog it wouldn't be dangerous. (Excuse the sarcasm) some of these owners need to be prosecuted for cruelty. Some of these owners need to be destroyed.

It's nice to see how the one guy has changed his ways (the one with k) but shame it took his dog attacking his mate to make him see he was wrong.

But the one who was saying she wants her dog to be vicious and doesn't care if her dog kills someone who comes In her home. Thing is her dogs are not propperly trained protection dogs so who's to say her dogs won't one day attack someone when out on a walk or even her own kid.
Well that guy who training his red dog to attack and trained him not to stop by hitting and kicking him and punishing him if he stopped well words can express what a twat he is.

Also suprised that when the cops came out to access the lady's dog who keeps them as pets that the cops didn't take her younger dog as we'll, she said she was planning to try to get that one on the exempted list later on. Glad her other two passed.

Yes she seemed the best really loved her end comment. "Not for fighting not for breeding their my family".  The eejit from South London whose son was called justice (really?). His Partner said she thought he should train dogs professionally - ah yes by punching them ! Then he said " you have to feed your dog well" as he was spooning Bakers into a bowl. I actually thought i was watching an episode of little Britain.

I want to see some shows on quality dog ownership so i can learn instead of them always going for the shock horror element. Having said that i still watched.....

I knew there was very little point in me watching it as I would rather read the comments on forums. I love your comment Tish.:-)

Would love to know if the police will do anything now -plenty of evidence on film!

If only Goldmali!

> I actually thought i was watching an episode of little Britain.

Hahaha!

I'm afraid that I didn't watch it.  I knew that I would have been shouting at the TV telling everyone that total idiots need to be muzzled and banned from keeping dogs.  I'm by myself so nobody knows that I swear at the TV.

> I'm afraid that I didn't watch it.

I watched half of it, then the lady of the house [elderly mum] demanded something else. I can watch the rest on catch-up. It was, and it wasn't, what I expected. But then I have spent time on the FB selling groups, and already seen the vast incompetence and gulf in knowledge that some "average" dog owners appear to have.

Decided not to watch,  after the last programme.   

I've noticed that there's  been a lot of 'freak' shows on in the last few years.

Typical of tv makers in the UK -   aim as low as possible.   

Itv's  difficult to guess the purpose of  the programme,  apart from 'look at the freaks'

Have  even stopped  listening to  Radio  4  - so  dumbed down these days,  it's pointless listening.

The eejit from South London whose son was called justice (really?). His Partner said she thought he should train dogs professionally - ah yes by punching them ! Then he said " you have to feed your dog well" as he was spooning Bakers into a bowl. I actually thought i was watching an episode of little Britain.

Thats written from the hand of someone with an able comedy satire application gift & real sense of the context of an occasion.
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Would love to know if the police will do anything now -plenty of evidence on film!

A lot of those decisions, these days, are more to do with CP (crown prosecutions) budget.

It costs quite a bit to take people to court+a lot more chasing offenders up doe unpaid fines, those issues are then linked to crime 'type' problems in any area - e.g if theres a big shoplifting problem in an area the public in general are going to start playing up if all they hear about is dog fighters in court whilst they remain nervous of going out shopping & rarely hear of anyone getting caught. Things & CP priorities vary from place to place all over UK.
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I knew there was very little point in me watching it as I would rather read the comments on forums.

Me too.   I tend not to bother watching these documentaries which are usually so biased in any case, and produced by the 'ignorant' basically for the even more 'ignorant'.   It's another form of reality TV = cheap TV.   

The trouble with Breed Specific laws is they can't be policed properly - the dogs would only be seized if they were involved in an incident more often than not.   And it's now such a grey area - people with Pit Bulls are mixing them with Staffies etc. so identifying them is next to impossible.   I thought originally Pits and others on the Banned List, were to be neutered, so the breed would eventually 'die out'.   Clearly this was impossible to police too - and laws that can't be policed are STUPID LAWS.

There was a lot of comments directed at TV here as well. I'm sure I heard the commentator say the woman with 3 dogs was a single Mum. The child was never shown but I wouldn't want dogs that fight like that around a child. Well I wouldn't want dogs like that around me.
I was appalled in so many ways but I really felt sorry for the placid staffie the woman was trying to make aggressive.

There was a lot of comments directed at TV here as well. I'm sure I heard the commentator say the woman with 3 dogs was a single Mum. The child was never shown but I wouldn't want dogs that fight like that around a child. Well I wouldn't want dogs like that around me.
I was appalled in so many ways but I really felt sorry for the placid staffie the woman was trying to make aggressive.
The "good" diet of Bakers didn't give the red dog a firm poo that the dog did on the path and the owner didn't pick up !

The trouble with Breed Specific laws is they can't be policed properly
There was some official lady (can't rember what they said her job was, but she was talking about staffs in the pound) she was saying that the dda had backfired as by making the breeds illegal it's made those sort of people want them more and that's it's too easy to get one online as there is no regulation with those sites.

Very true Dill

Even the grooming documentary had to be "extreme grooming"

I recorded this programme and I have just viewed it.  Not one of the owners could speak English.  One of the women who obviously lived in a red light district was a 'single mother' whatever that means.  Was she a widow?  The other woman who was fat with tattoo's never showed her husband even though the child was filmed. This is the under class of England that people died 100 years ago to keep free!
I got over my anger and then laughed when I realised that the owners of these dogs were cowards as well.  They needed these dogs because they couldn't stand up for theirselves and they knew that they could be beaten to a pulp by a baby in a pram.

So true Hethspaw

my court applications (for work) went up this year from 100.00 to 250.00.. I deal mainly with civil procedures but the common thought is this is to subsidise other areas of the law such as family and criminal.

So agree with many of the comments. Lethal weapons I the hands of idiots.
The woman had no control over those dogs that were fighting, imagine if someone was walking their pet on that field, the result just does not bear thinking about.
Obviously the laws that were brought in are just simply being ignored.

I turned the programme over after 5 minutes as it annoyed me watching the idiot owners and what they were doing to their dogs. The woman with an the dogs that fought was a total idiot.

I work with these type of people every day so know that even if some of the show was staged, unfortunately it would be based on reality. I have always said it is the owners who need neutering and muzzling not just the dogs.

The woman had no control over those dogs that were fighting, imagine if someone was walking their pet on that field, the result just does not bear thinking about.

I allways thought to go on the exempted dogs list the dogs had to have a perfect temperament so not be aggressive to other dogs as well as people. As they won't be wearing there muzzled while on her property what's to stop them escaping (like her young one did while filming) and while lose attack a dog and its owner getting hurt when they try to save there dog. It's so easy for a dog to bite a person trying to split a dog fight and n the fight between the two dogs it realy didn't want to let go once it got its teeth into it.

I allways thought to go on the exempted dogs list the dogs had to have a perfect temperament so not be aggressive to other dogs as well as people. As they won't be wearing there muzzled while on her property what's to stop them escaping (like her young one did while filming) and while lose attack a dog and its owner getting hurt when they try to save there dog.

It only mentions safety to humans, but it's definitely a valid point. However, as the dog that was fighting with the other was the third dog that was NOT assessed in the programme, if that one started it and is the more dog aggressive one, I suppose it's possible that one will not pass. Or it's a simple case of those two dogs not getting on, but being fine with others -I am sure we all have had dogs like that. Being cynical, there must have been a reason for the woman to not want all 3 of her dogs seized and assessed at the same time and I bet it was because of the two not getting on.

At the end her two dogs were on lead and muzzled, both reacted to an off lead dog in the park. Mind you that was another stupid owner letting its off lead dog approach on lead dog muzzled dogs.

sadly tish its not little Britain but real Britain :(

Not one of the owners could speak English.

Ah yes but some of that was filmed in S E London & the Romans didn't even leave there until Woolworths liquidated!
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It only mentions safety to humans, but it's definitely a valid point.
So then could ex fighters be put on the list if there fine with humans? (Asuming the dog had been sold to someone who wasn't fighting it when they apply)

> So then could ex fighters be put on the list if there fine with humans?

Yes - the blonde woman on the TV show claimed one of hers was an ex-fighter.

Its fine hethspaw you just become bilingual coming from one who has lived in south london all my life !

Its fine hethspaw you just become bilingual coming from one who has lived in south london all my life

err...hmm.........I hate meee!
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Hethspaw ?