Thanks smithy, I'm a . Dog groomer but never done a newf before so want to make sure I've got a decent shampoo etc for her so I can start as she's young to try and keep her coat in excellent condition. I use a product called amazing trix which is fab for detangling but will have a look at the stuff too. I did ask at crufts which shampoo etc people used but obviously they weren't really forth comming ha ha