Is anybody watching this soap and what's going on with Lady Di, the Bulldog the Carter family have come with.   Talking about breeding her to make money, and now she's out in season, to be 'mated' by the only other dog on the show.  Not that this would have remotely been possible, as shown.

I was so hoping the writers might approach this from a 'don't do it' point of view, but of course that was expecting way too much.   As it was, it was left on Tuesday with one dog standing above the other dog (!!) implicating a mating with the kids shouting pull him off.  Yes right - even if they were tied (not).    I really wish the researchers would USE the masses of information out here, before approaching a storyline.

And what about the owner of the Bulldog - shouldn't they have been involved in presenting this as it should be - CONFINE a bitch in season - and don't breed for money - to say nothing of the fact that Bulldogs have a hard time whelping = cost of a C.Section.

Is it worth writing to the production team I wonder? 

LOADS of people wrote to them already a few weeks ago when the storyline became known (there was also an online petition) and the reply given out by EE is that the pups will end up selling for next to nothing and they hinted at responsible breeding being mentioned -won't hold my breath though. I actually think the worst part is that the BBC refused to show Crufts on TV again unless the KC agreed to ban certain breeds of the BBC's choice from the show, the ones the BBC considered so unhealthy so that the general viewing public should not be allowed to see such poor creatures on TV. And then they go and add a storyline about showing a Saint Bernard to to EE immediately afterwards, and now a few years down the line, breeding Bulldogs -both breeds they demanded the KC ban from being shown on TV! Serves them right that Channel 4/More 4 is now showing Crufts instead.

I REALLY hope something is said about the dangers of trying to separate a tied dog and bitch though.

I was also quite annoyed that when the so called 'stray' dog appeared at the branning house they just took it in. No mention of getting it micro chip checked at the vets or putting up posters/going online to advertise a lost dog had been found. It hardly looked like a straggly stray!

i know its only a programme but when shown to an audience of millions it would be really beneficial to have helpful factual information!!

Well IF she is going to be pregnant, and by that mutt, her puppies will be worthless in any case!!    I wish I'd known about the petition because my name would be gone on it, in spades.    This from a programme that professes to want to be responsible in how they show certain subjects.......   There should be a helpline (shown after the programme) for responsible breeders to get help with their BP!!

Entirely agree re Crufts coverage.   But in all honesty, that's better on Ch.4 in any case much as I do feel Claire should stick to horses, and Jessica should drop her French affectation when it comes to how she pronounces the PBGV/GBGV.    Vendeen has always been good enough, not Vendeon (French nasel sound).

I just have to keep telling myself Enders is just a story....... difficult.

I will openly admit that I left the room to continue with my dissertation work when I heard this on Eastenders! Truly irresponsible! They will have lit a lightbulb up in potentially millions of people's brains across the nation. Furthermore, the hypocrisy of it, quite simply put is astounding!

There should be a helpline (shown after the programme) for responsible breeders to get help with their BP!!

LOL! They really ought to have an action line for dog problems though seeing as they do it for everything else that crops up in storylines.

And yes, agree channel 4 has been better for Crufts!

>Jessica should drop her French affectation when it comes to how she pronounces the PBGV/GBGV.    Vendeen has always been good enough, not Vendeon (French nasel sound).

Don't getbinto a discussion with Griffon Bruxellois people about correct pronunciation! ;-) I must admit I like the 'Von-day-on' and Vy-mar-aner' pronunciation, rather than Vendeen or Wymaraner.

Actually for most of us who have been 'around' for years, Roughies, or Grifs has always been enough!!   Or even PBGV - much as the Grands were that, Grands.

And those other of us who've also been 'around for years' appreciate the correct name, especially when broadcasting to (and hopefully educating ;-) ) members of the public. :-)

I don't think there are an awful lot of people that can pronounce ALL foreign breed names correctly. After all, I am used to hearing "The judging of Belgian Shepherd Dog MALLI-NOY will take place in ring x in 5 minutes time" over the tannoys at a LOT of championship shows. :)

> After all, I am used to hearing "The judging of Belgian Shepherd Dog MALLI-NOY will take place in ring x in 5 minutes time

You need one of these, Marianne -
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I have Tollers - many people in the breed can't even pronounce the breed name correctly let alone other people :-D

I don't think there are an awful lot of people that can pronounce ALL foreign breed names correctly. After all, I am used to hearing "The judging of Belgian Shepherd Dog MALLI-NOY will take place in ring x in 5 minutes time" over the tannoys at a LOT of championship shows.

I allways thought it was pronounced Malle-nose lol there is a new person started at work who breeds them, now I make a point to say it propperly.

off course C4 is actually under the BBC umbrella - so a good way for them to retain Crufts without it appearing that they are......

Are you thinking of BBC4? Channel 4 is different;, a commercial channel, not a BBC channel.

Fact is pronouncing the Grif as a Vendeon, in the UK, is an affectation.  And unnecessary - if only it were to be educating the general public!!!

The KC did a letter to the BBC about it.  On FB they've been nothing but slagged off for doing so.  The KC can't win these days not matter what they do. I've not watched EE for years thankfully.

Did the KC do this - well done KC.   Thankfully that storyline was shelved during the latter end of the past week.   Goodness knows where they will go with it.   Suffice to say, as with all specific storylines, I so wish the writers would plug into the usually TONS of information available out here.    Small wonder nurses etc. don't watch Casualty or Holby - if we can pick upon all this with dogs, goodness knows how much misinformation there is on shows like those.

>Small wonder nurses etc. don't watch Casualty or Holby - if we can pick upon all this with dogs, goodness knows how much misinformation there is on shows like those.

In the UK, medical dramas must be factual; symptoms must be accurate etc. It's foreign-made programmes like House which don't need to abide by our regulations.

>Fact is pronouncing the Grif as a Vendeon, in the UK, is an affectation.  And unnecessary - if only it were to be educating the general public!!!

People in the breed feel differently - they get really annoyed by the ignoran Anglicised pronunciation. Just as dalmatian people get annoyed when they see 'dalmation' written; and I've seen rants about basset being written as bassett, or GSDs called alsatians!

Is it an affectation to say 'Beeshon Freezay'?

And with the GBGV and PBGV is the first word pronounced the French way (Grond and P'tee) or Anglicised (Grand and Pettit)?

> Is it an affectation to say 'Beeshon Freezay'?

Does it really matter ?? You can be sure that most British people still wouldn't be able to pronounce it properly anyway unless they are fluent French speakers :) :) It's probably better to just pronounce it the British way than to sound like Officer Crabtree ....... :) :)

More polite to try than not bother. :-)

> More polite to try than not bother. :-) .

Just depends - nothing worse than excruciatingly bad French :) :) :)

>nothing worse than excruciatingly bad French

Other than assuming a French person understands English. ;-)

People in the breed feel differently - they get really annoyed by the ignoran Anglicised pronunciation.

My mum used to get REALLY annoyed when people at home in Sweden pronounced Golden Retriever with a proper English pronunciation -she reckoned that's just trying to be posh and you should pronounce it with a Swedish accent when in Sweden (which actually most Swedish Golden people seem to do.) :)

Goldmali, I don't if it's possible for you to do this, but how does Golden Retriever sound with a Swedish accent?

Talk about a thread being hi-jacked eh  LOL.

Just to add - when first in Canada, and looking for a venue (actually a meeting of the Canadian BHC - what else) I stopped somebody in the street and asked for the Leisure Lodge (English accent).   Blank face.   Then 'oh you mean the Leeeisure Lodge' (Canadian accent).    Hysterical.  

Just to go back to Jessica and her Vendeons - before her, most people called them, again Grifs. Ruffies, or indeed Vendeen.   It was only when she appeared on the Crufts coverage that all this started (much as no doubt she always used the French!!).

Now what about the Enders Bulldog bitch ................... ?

Goldmali, I don't if it's possible for you to do this, but how does Golden Retriever sound with a Swedish accent?

I don't think I can explain it by typing, can not come up with any way. :)