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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Helicobacter
- By Luna [gb] Date 15.01.14 18:03 UTC
I started a thread on here last week about my dogs being sick and suspecting a blockage. Well turns out it is Helicobacter, vets says there is no definitive cause but often it is a food intolerance that has gone unnoticed and caused stomach problems. Anyhow, he is saying she may have to stay on the cans of Hills prescription diet , I am not happy about this, not least of all because of the price. Although obviously if that is what is necessary than so be it.

Just wondering if anyone else has any experience of this ? I have fed her cooked chicken and Yoghurt and she has been fine but she needs more than that obviously.

Thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 15.01.14 18:43 UTC
Which prescription diet is recommended? If it's the I/D as I suspect then tinned Chappie is often used as a longterm alternative.
- By Luna [gb] Date 15.01.14 18:59 UTC
no it's ZD allergy diet. I've heard of Chappie being suggested to other people with similar things..might try that.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 15.01.14 19:18 UTC
It's worth staying ZD for 4 - 6 weeks as an exclusion diet, and then gradually introduce other things at the end of that period when he's stabilised.
- By klb [gb] Date 15.01.14 22:36 UTC
ZD is a hydrolysed protein diet, by breaking down proteins to base amino acids it is less likely to trigger intolerance/ allergy. As An alternative to ZD long term you could look at http://www.workinghprs.com/content/fish-and-potato-allergy-x®-30kg competitive on price and IMHO a better ingredient list than hills

K
- By JeanSW Date 15.01.14 23:22 UTC
I agree with others that tinned Chappie is great for sensitive tummies.  My Border Collie looks great on it, yet I used to think I would never get a proper poo out of him.
- By MsTemeraire Date 15.01.14 23:34 UTC

> I agree with others that tinned Chappie is great for sensitive tummies. 


Got to be careful, if the sensitivity is to wheat/gluten/grains then Chappie won't be a help.
- By Luna [gb] Date 15.01.14 23:40 UTC
Thanks for the replies. Not heard of the working dog one before but she was on Simpson's Salmon and Potato previous to being ill and it is similar. I was thinking of trying Eden or Gentle but may keep her on the ZD a bit longer.

Vet has now prescribed Kesium and Metronidazole. ..
- By JeanSW Date 16.01.14 01:11 UTC

>Vet has now prescribed Kesium and Metronidazole


Metronidazole is the antibiotic of choice for campylobacter in humans and animals.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 16.01.14 13:00 UTC
My Basset came to us at 4 months, suffering, we discovered, with Giardia.   As the result he was left with a very delicate digestive system - started off solid in the morning,  but quite different by the end of the day.   I was at my wits end to figure out what to do for him (and me!).   Finally one of the vets at the practice I use gave him an antiinflammatory shot, and put him on Hills I/D for a week suggesting I then make up a fish and mashed potato diet.   The transformation was immediate.    I made up coley and potato but then moved him on to a commercially made version for convenience.  Arden Grange Sensitive which is haddock and potato.   Plus the extras.   It's a tad pricey but the fact I'm not up at the vet's office all the time (it got to be a joke - my special parking space up there) makes any cost of the food more than worth while.   I have tried switching him off it, but always the return to a less than ideal stool.

He was given Panalog for the Giardia initially but that didn't do the job so he then was given Metronidazole.   Which produced negative fecals.
- By Luna [gb] Date 17.01.14 17:03 UTC
She hasn't had any diarrhea. Vet didn't have any of the Hill's stuff, it has to be ordered especially They suggested I try Chappie...seems ok thus far and I'm happier with the price :)

Seriously considering going down the raw route again eventually.
- By Vanhalla [gb] Date 18.01.14 13:54 UTC
I looked up a post I made in 2008 on this subject:

My bitch in her younger days used to be prone to bouts of diarrhoea, following a severe reaction to an overdose of wormer as a young pup.  Eventually, my vet diagnosed an overgrowth of bacteria in the gut, for which she was treated fairly successfully.  In her middle years, she suffered a bout of constant vomiting.  I then opted for an endoscope test, which showed a very small amount of helicobacter pylori in the stomach.  If left untreated, it could have led to an ulcer or a tumour.  She was given strong antibiotic, and the bouts of upset stomach have never returned - it's been a few years now.
I don't think the helicobacter could have been there the whole time, but obviously her gut flora were never as they should have been.  I used a powdered probiotic, and that helped - it was recommended to me by someone who had used probiotic for horses.  I can't remember the brand, but I think it was TDP.  Yes, I just looked it up - it was TDP Probiotic by Aviform.  I should think the natural yoghurt will do just as well, though. "

To add to this, she did not need to go a 'special' diet.  Once the helicobacter pylori had been treated, the problem never returned.  I fed her Ardengrange Lamb and Rice for many years after, followed by a fish-based food at the end of her life as the AG recipe had changed.  She was a picky youngster growing up following the overdose of wormer (which was an adult dose accidentally prescribed for her at less than four months of age) - that's where her problems began.  In later life, she was a greedy guts.
- By Luna [gb] Date 04.02.14 22:37 UTC
My bitch seems to be better, no more sickness but I can't get the weight back on her and she is so thin. I am really worried so will go back to vet. I am hoping I am expecting too much too soon but can't stop worrying over her
Topic Dog Boards / Health / Helicobacter

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