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Topic Dog Boards / General / Imported puppies inthe Netherlands did NOT have rabies
- By Tommee Date 21.12.13 15:41 UTC
Apparently the first tests were incorrect & the two Bulgarian puppies did NOT have rabies so everyone over here who was scaremongering was wrong !!
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.12.13 16:56 UTC
How about the kitten in Paris?
- By Tommee Date 21.12.13 17:44 UTC
Our Dogs didn't report about the kitten & no one knows where the kitten came from
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.12.13 17:58 UTC
Very worrying, seeing that it was very young.
- By Tommee Date 21.12.13 18:03 UTC
Of course it could have been from a cat with early stage rabies that was imported into France in kitten, as it was a kitten found in the street
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.12.13 19:07 UTC
Exactly; which means there's possibly a mother and the rest of the litter still infected and out there. :-(
- By Tommee Date 21.12.13 19:42 UTC
If this was the case the mother & other kittens would be dead by now
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.12.13 19:47 UTC
But what could they have infected in the interim?
- By MsTemeraire Date 22.12.13 00:31 UTC

> But what could they have infected in the interim?


Other feral cats - possibly stray dogs.
Not mice and rats, as they are terminal vectors - they would die of the disease before passing it on, and have a dry bite.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 22.12.13 10:23 UTC
The one 'good' thing about rabies is it is self-limiting (affected animals die) BUT it's what happens in the meantime.   Having lived in Canada for 15 years, I'm not quite as worried about all this as others who haven't lived in a country with rabies might be.  Our hounds were all vaccinated/boostered - end of.   BUT this open boarder policy (in all respects) in the UK is extremely worrying even if rabies isn't quite as often seen in near Europe, as it once was.  It is still rife further across Europe.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 22.12.13 10:42 UTC

>It is still rife further across Europe.


And that is where puppy farming, and export, both legal and illegal, to the UK, is big business.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 22.12.13 19:28 UTC
Not mice and rats, as they are terminal vectors - they would die of the disease before passing it on, and have a dry bite.

So that's why there is no quirenteen on bringing mice into UK then, I wondered why that was, I had only it read there was not rabies requirements on rodents but it didn't say why.
- By Goldmali Date 22.12.13 19:35 UTC
Made me wonder a lot because of course there USED to be quarantine for rats and mice etc. When I moved to the UK in 1988 I put a total of 40 small animals into quarantine, a mixture of rats, mice, hamsters and guinea pigs. They all had to stay for the full 6 months although any babies born in quarantine were allowed to come out once old enough to leave their mothers!
- By MsTemeraire Date 22.12.13 22:25 UTC

> Made me wonder a lot because of course there USED to be quarantine for rats and mice etc.


It changed when the Balai Directive came in.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 23.12.13 14:41 UTC
That must have cost a fortune goldmali.
At a few of the mouse show you get a few forin owners coming over with there mice so show/sell then taking more back with them. Good thing for them they changed that or they could never do that. I had some brought over from Denmark reasontly.
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 24.12.13 08:55 UTC Edited 24.12.13 09:03 UTC
export, both legal and illegal, to the UK, is big business.

WHAT??? What reliable source did that come from? please name it!

You have a Dali on your profile, as you have given out what must be considered as an area of highly specialized knowledge (if factual) please give the numbers of Dalis born here in UK, between 2011-2012 & what number of Dalis were exported from UK to other countries.

Please also give all your credible sources.

And the second part of your claims (illegal exports  imports), how many convictions in a UK court were there in the year 2011-2012 & the source of the record you have for the figures you imply you have.
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- By tombaker [gb] Date 25.12.13 22:18 UTC
There was massive media interest into the illegal importation of puppies from Eastern Europe on television at the beginning of this year.
- By HuskyGal Date 25.12.13 23:46 UTC

>What??? What reliable source did that come from? Please name it!


UK Border Agency informs the Animal Health and Veterinary Laboratories Agency.
ISPCA and the large Dog rescue charities also produce figures for seizures (that slipped through the net)
  All readily available information, much of which has been published in the media, so you shouldn't find it quite so incredulously difficult to extrapolate.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.12.13 00:32 UTC
There's a report today: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/woman-sentenced-for-illegal-puppy-imports-1-5631520
- By MsTemeraire Date 26.12.13 00:47 UTC

> There's a report today: [url=undefined]http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/woman-sentenced-for-illegal-puppy-imports-1-5631520[/url]


I saw that report when it first came out, before the sentencing.
2 years suspended sentence... is that enough?
- By Celli [gb] Date 27.12.13 10:54 UTC
Given the potential repercussions of her actions, not enough at all imo.
Topic Dog Boards / General / Imported puppies inthe Netherlands did NOT have rabies

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