Because of a poorly dog who's on long term steroid treatment and who is unfortunately having
urination accidents in the house (one of the potential side effects of high steroid dose treatments)
despite being let out every couple of hours.
The carpet is taking a hammering and to my nose stinks (despite using the stain and odour removing shampoo's/spot on removers)

I am getting desperate to replace it with something more practical and that will be able to take being urinated on and not get the smell
trapped in the flooring. But it has to be non-slippery as also have a veteran and a pup so don't want to cause future problems associated with lack of grip when walking/running on it.

Does anyone have any experience of the above floorings (we have concrete floors, so am guessing that for karndean flooring they have to treat & seal the floor? Which means it takes quite a long time to fit? Does vinyl need an underlay?).
I would probably want this in the living room, hallway and kitchen eventually but I need the living room sorted first.

My OH is worried that it will be cold compared to carpet and wants us to cope with the carpet for now and put new down once
treatment is finished and pup is completely house trained...which I am not minded to do...but would like to hear others experiences of
the different floorings-pro's and con's.

Thanks in advance.

Just had Karndean fitted, looks fab, smells wonderful, easy to clean but very slippery for rushing dogs...(hallway and foyer).
They wood board out the whole floor, took a day to do a hallway.
13 year old boxer can't cope and cavaliers flying everywhere so we bought non slip runners.
Rather a shame as it covers quite a bit of the Karndean but still delighted with the new look and freshness.
In a lazier, relaxed, more open area, in sure it would be fine but boxers tend to put their toenails down if they think its skiddy..as you know. Bambi on ice!

Ps..it's not cold, it feels lovely.

I can sympathise.

I'm in the process of changing the carpeted floors in my bungalow, which I moved into almost a year ago, but am going for reproduction pamments, which will be sealed once fitted. I kept dithering between lino and Karndean which would take less time and effort to fit but decided that long term a tiled floor would be more durable with 6 or more dogs/puppies to contend with and all the mud and mess that comes with them. I'm doing the hall and bathroom initially and will do the living room in the summer (the carpet will just have to take a battering this winter). I've just come to the conclusion that carpets and dogs don't mix. I will put rugs down here and there to soften the "hardness" (if the pups ever stop chewing them), but they can go in the washing machine to keep them fresh.

I love my Karndean which has been down for 6 years and looks as good as new.  I chose a textured wood one - not enough to attract dirt but enough to stop dogs slipping on it.

Each plank or tile, depending on which type you choose, is put down individually, over a doubled skinned base to reduce noise and increase insulation, so installation is very labour intensive, but that's why it's not noisy or cold to walk on.  :)

My daughter has has Amtico, the posh alternative, for 13 years and happily raised puppies and taken care of oldies on it too - it's brilliant stuff.  I can't see mine needing to be replaced and I will choose the same if I move house.

We have good quality vinyl, and we are delighted with it.

Vinyl pretty much everywhere here -another one who chose more expensive textured ones. Couldn't afford Karndean at the time and the first time my mum visited she asked if I wasn't going to do something about the floors -or would they stay just plain wood forever? LOL.  It is easy to clean, don't find it slippery at all (and I have a 13 ½ year old dog with major problems with her back end,yet she has no problems with this), BUT I have encountered a few problems. It's been down for 7 years now and I've just a few weeks ago had to replace what we had in the bathroom, as various litters of kittens brought up in there had managed to scratch it to pieces around the edges. That was slightly thinner stuff though -and I realise not everyone has kittens in their bathroom. :) In the living room our floor is very uneven (concrete), and the vinyl flooring around my computer chair has started to crack, because of the chair on wheels constantly rolling across it. The rest of the room still looks great. Finally in the hall my last pup took it upon herself to remove it all and chew it to pieces. But again, a half working Malinois is not your average pup, but rather an over the top one, like none I've had before.

Vinyl planks. I got textured ones, not too slippery and look great. Very wood like.
They are not that expensive and super easy to lay. You just need flat surface and Stanley knife.
They are self adhesive.

I put some vinyl down on wonky floorboards as a 'temporary' measure in my utility room and within a month one of the dogs started on it in the middle so it can't be disguised! Is the karndean chew proof (I.e thicker)

It goes on a perfectly level floor using a very strong adhesive.
I can't see how they could chew as its solid PVC with no edges accessible.

Had heavy duty vinyl put down in bathroom and Kitchen, the type that looks like floor boards, has a rough texture. The stuff in the kitchen is called safetread or treadsafe something like that was from B & Q. Bathroom stuff also non slip been down about 4 years still good as new.
Just had the hallway done, we have 4 dogs, two large, 2 medium one of who is 13 1/2 and prone to accidents.
It does not feel cold, really easy to keep clean, we do get tumble weed type hair gathering, but just suck it up with the hoover attachment and a quick mop now and again.
My large dogs are very mobile and none have slipped on it, I much prefer it to carpet, which I was continually trying to clean up accidents from, it always looked stained despite my best efforts.

We have Karndean.
It is slippery and scratches easily.  I wouldn't have it again.

We have Kardean as well - have had it for 6 years, and no problems at all - wonderful to clean, and it really has had all sorts on it ;-)    .   I guess it depends which sort you choose - the smooth ones would be slippery I guess, but we chose the ones with sort of Oak finish with texture.

Jo

Does the Karndean get dents in it where heavy furniture sits on top of it and do they come out if furniture is moved around?

Thanks for everyone's responses so far been very helpful.
Yes want to avoid problems that come with very slippery floors
But in need of something more practical than carpet.

Interesting re Karndean an going to have a chat with our next door neighbour as
think he fits floors just to see if he has any feedback too as have seen some complaining
that the Karndean scratches easily etc.

Think biggest drawback is the fitting of Karndean as they have to prepare the floor from what I can see.
Not sure if it will take more than a day? As we have concrete floor at the moment covered with underlay and
carpet.

Interesting re Bambi on ice comment..

As the dogs do tend to charge in from the garden into the living room.

Glad to hear it's not cold :)

We considered Karndean, but apart from the cost, it can only be fitted by approved Karndean fitters, which ruled out the excellent chap we wanted to use.

It can actually be fitted by anyone - you can fit it yourself but I wouldn't undertake such a labour intensive job with double boarding underneath - but Karndean will not then honour the guarantee.

But when I had one plank lift a little in the loo after 5 years, they said that they only guarantee the product.  The fitting is down to the fitter - who wanted money to come back after 5 years. :)

It took 4 days to fit the whole of my downstairs excluding the kitchen.

I think the product is brilliant, (I have no scratches and am not good at looking after it properly!) and would certainly have it again, but might get someone else to fit it next time. :)

We are just about to order Karndean for our kitchen and utility room.  I looked at travertine stone tiles but decided against them as they just weren't going to be suitable for the dogs.  I've chosen a Knight Tile from Karndean in a stone finish for the non slip properties...

We are fitting it on a concrete floor and need levelling compound and a damp proof membrane. It's going to take several days to fit

When you look at all the different options for type of flooring, colours, tile sizes or sheets, finish, cost etc then it really starts to narrow things down BUT the biggest limit seems to be the non slip needs of our dogs!

We have karndean throughout downstairs took three days to lay,its beautiful, doesnt scratch but it was expensive,dogs are fine on it ,have hall runners down and two biggish rugs in lounge and dining area.

Sheila