Just been browsing MYKC & the find a dog resource.

Found some dogs whose owner has claimed that they have been fully health tested for generations, however the particular test I was looking for isn't listed by the KC for any dog of that breed, so I went to another database & guess what to my surprise when no results are shown for the test for these dogs either.

Should a prospective puppy buyer have to search multiple resources to check the health tests for the parents of the puppy they are looking to buy or should the KC record ALL the tests done, regardless of whether the breed concerns has a known high risk of having a condition, that there is a health test for ?

Not conclusive I'm afraid.
On health tests recorded for my breed are eye and a new DNA test. Both are very slow to show up and several of mine have never been published in the BRS despite being conducted by the head of the panel.
The important ones, the killers, the ones that cause real suffering ie SM and MVD aren't or only partly recorded.
The new BVA/KC scheme for SM is not well supported because it requires using a small handful of centres and not many others. Those who chose to use these OTHER very well qualified places don't have their results recorded.
NO KC scheme yet for our biggest killer and THE most important certificate a breeding dog in my breed can have IMO.

So in my breed, whilst interesting, rather scanty information in places.

If you go to the KC Breed Information Centre, you will find the Health Information for the breed.   This lists which tests MUST be done by Assured Breeders, which are strongly recommended, and which are advised.    The need for testing is more complicated than 'every dog must be tested for everything'   Some dogs will be genetically clear and won't need to be tested.   But the proof should be available via parental/gr/ gr gr, etc.  test certificates.

In our breed, the KC has only very recently (within the last year or so) started to record results of the most recently developed version of a DNA test, that has been considered essential before breeding for at least 20 years!     It is still only strongly recommended by the KC.  Some dogs are genetically clear, therefore do not need testing.  However,  some less responsible breeders (byb's or working breeders etc.) have never tested so the health status of their dogs is unknown.  

It's up to puppy buyers to research their breed and the breeders/stock.    The breed clubs should be able to help you find a pup from tested parents ;-)

For my breed the KC health check tool only includes hips and elbow but breeding stock ideally should have cardiac checks, eye tests and there are also DNA tests for some rare issues. Potential owners or people looking for studs would need to ask to see test results from owner/ breeder

Not all tests are listed, so i tend to ask to see the original xrays, dna reports or heart test reports from breeders, if they have done them then its not a problem. If they can't produce them I don't bother looking into that kennel any further.

Even though the test for the dogs I own are on the KC I still have the reports for reference and to show anyone if I'm asked

I wasn't looking for a puppy, just to check out what I had been told & whilst it didn't prove or disprove they breeder's claims, it did show that they hadn't been breeding from their"lines"for as long as they claimed(ie 30 + years claimed yet their affix only granted 10 years ago )& most of their original dogs had been bought in less than 10 years ago-giving lie to their claim of X generations of full DNA tested dogs as the DNA test wasn't available before 2005 & that wouldn't give time for all the generations they claim to have been tested & then bred from, unless the bitches were bred from on their first season for the X number of generations ! Of course the dogs could have been DNA tested after they had been bred from, but the breeder's claim was that they had never bred from a dog that wasn't from DNA tested parents but as they have bred from dogs before 2005 that is patently untrue !

Very very interesting !!!

Roll on the time when all DNA tests are online without the breeder/owner's right to hide them !

I personally would always ask to orginal proof unless I knew that dogs results already

I thought you had to have the basic health test requirements to advertise on Champ.dogs, but clearly not. I enquired about a litter (I am a breeder myself) and she said that both had hips and eyes certificates but the two data bases I have one being the Kennel Club clearly showed nothing. I asked her to put the hips scores  and eye certificates up on Champ.dogs and she got really nasty to me, I know why because she hadn't got them. So anyone can advertise on Champ.dogs and what they say to puppy people can be a pack of lies. I know some puppy people haven't a clue and don't understand what they should be asking.  Isn't it time Champ.dogs demanded some health tests for breeds that the Breed Clubs require? Or are we going to have to allow Jo blogs and the puppy farmer on here? 

I suggest you report the breeder in question to the site admin

I thought you had to have the basic health test requirements to advertise on Champ.dogs, but clearly not.

Seeing as the listings clearly note if parents are health tested or not (and proof is needed for that), I don't see a big problem.

Actually even if test aren't required if they are official KC tests (BVA, Otigen etc) then they will be included.  The issues tend to be those for tests that have not been made official tests, or older results before they became official, or overseas schemes of course.

For example elbow scoring is not a requirement or even advised for my breed, but results still appear if you choose to get both hips and elbows done.  ditto yearly eye test is only advised by the KC for us now we have a DNA test for prcd-PRA, but the breed clubs consider it essential.

Actually even if test aren't required if they are official KC tests (BVA, Otigen etc) then they will be included.The issues tend to be those for tests that have not been made official tests, or older results before they became official, or overseas schemes of course.

Only if the breed clubs have requested for it to be made official. I eye test my Papillons and results are sent as usual to KC but they do not get listed on anything.

Is that because they  re not on the BVA schedule for any disease?

Yes, this is what I was told when eye testing. There have been the odd case of PRA in the breed (in the UK, loads more abroad) but none have been OFFICIALLY eye tested so therefore it has not happened officially! Prof. Bedford said the only way was to lobby the breed clubs.

The same with the MDR1 with the KC Not recorded on all breeds that have the risk of having the condition-life threatening in view of the fact many drugs fall within the MDR1 reactions !

Same for GSP as not on eye schedule testing not shown on KC Heath check, the DNA tests are required by breed club or KC so they are also not shown. 

We have the same problem with my breed. What we've started doing is getting the eye tests done by ECVO examiners (most testers are members already) completing the ECVO paperwork which then gets sent to the KC and printed in the Breed Record Supplements. The problem with the BVA forms is, unless your breed has a recognised problem the KC don't get informed of the results.

So not the KC's fault, but the BVA, typical, they slate breeders but do very little to help.  When did you ever se a health schemes poster in a vets waiting room, or most even know much about health testing schemes at all!!!

We have started testing for HUU in Large Munsterlanders, but due to the cost many are sending the swabs abroad instead of to the AHT. The results aren't then automatically sent to the KC for inclusion on the health pages. It is up to the owner to send a copy of the results in and not everyone has done so. There could be other people in other breeds that are doing the same. This could be a reason why some results aren't in the public domain.