Hi,
I need some advice. When a litter is bred, from a female who is aggressive, (although when buying the pups isnt said, just that you can see her but not meet her as she is funny when people are in the house around her babies) yes i know i should have been more aware of this but i was unsuspecting and stupid. Plus knowing other litters bred by these breeders which are fantastic, Although they currently still insist this bitch is fine, its common knowledge now that she isnt.
When a number of these dogs grow up with temperament problems, extreme aggression, even to the stage where they turn on there own. through training, love and time there is no improvement just worsening, and only being a year old!!! whos responsible for the outcome of these dogs? of a litter of ten puppies, one dies 2 weeks after being brought, and at least 4 that i know of have major issues, is it wrong for the breeder to say contact a rescue?
Sorry i cant explain better than this i hope you understand what i mean!

I certainly do.
We bought a dog 15 years a go from a local breeder. When I went to visit the puppies, the dam barked like mad and we were told she only did this when she had puppies. Stupidly I took her word for this as she did seem ok otherwise. The puppy I eventually bought home grew up into a dog who did not like other dogs, barked aggressively at any visitors we had to the house, or that she saw when out on walks. With us she was great and we had no problems with her or with people she knew well. However, as a pet dog from a breed which is supposed to be kind and gentle, this was a bit of a shock. I thought I had not been good at socialising her, but then I discovered that other people were having similar problems with dogs from the same breeder. This time round, I avoided any lines from that breeder and spent a lot of time and effort looking for lines with good temperament. The breeder is still churning out puppies and a family who have bought one of my dogs siblings, nearly got a puppy from this breeder, but luckily was put off by the dam who barked nonstop when they visited!

Ultimately and MORALLY it should always be the breeder's responsibility. Rescue shouldn't EVER come into it. A responsible breeder should always take a dog they have bred back if there is a problem and the owner feels unable to keep the dog -for any reason at all and at any age. But LEGALLY, an unlicensed breeder (i.e. the great majority other than commercial breeders) has no legal responsibilities and it is a case of caveat emptor -buyer beware. In law, it is the buyer who has to ensure they buy a pup they are happy with as there is no come back on the breeder. If the breeder however is licensed, the breeder has more legal obligations, similar to any other shop selling a product.

A breed known to be friendly and happy with strangers should be happy even when they have pups. A breed known to guard, such as my own main breed, I would accept a bitch to be protective of her pups and not want visitors but ONLY up to the age of 3 weeks or so, after that there should be no need to feel that protective.  I have one bitch that won't actively welcome visitors into the house, that is part of how the breed is -in some ways they ones that throw themselves at visitors with wagging tails are more untypical. But take it slowly and give her a few treats and she comes round, every single time.

Anyone can end up with a bad litter, no matter what we do it can happen, and indeed I had a problem litter 5 years ago. Some of the pups were fantastic, some had major behavioural problems, and it certainly was through no fault of the owners. When something like that happens  the breeder should stand by their puppy buyers with help and advice of whatever form is suitable, and I hope this is what I have done with mine. I also ensured NONE of the dogs from that litter were ever bred on from (including the ones with GOOD temperament and no problems at all).

Running training classes for years certainly gives an insight into just how gullible people are.

Two GSD pups attended my puppy class and they were rigid with fear, like stone!

The owners had gone to a premises where both mother and father tried to rip their throats out
and they bought TWO!

They were not impressed with my suggestion to take them back...apparently they were too scared. :-(

got one now. I love my dog and wouldn't be without her but she is nervy--just the way her mother was when we saw her and i stupidly put it down to the bitch not being happy with strangers in house when she had pups. her nerves have severely restricted what we can do with her as a pet.
I was also stupid enough to take breeders word for it that the litter had been vet checked as all good. my pup had extra eyelashes top and bottom-a heriditary defect she will never be free of.  i had noticed a few of the pups had slightly runny eyes but as my little one hadn't and they all looked healthy i thought nothing much of it-there was some excuse made of they had been playing in dirt etc-- later i found out runny eyes a big clue and probably other pups in litter were likewise effected.  the so called loving breeder when informed did not retire her bitch from breeding and the stud dog owner likewise carried on their merry way.father of my dog a 'big' name in breed-you would think big enough to stop . yes the pair had all their health checks but you would think having produced at least one pup with deformed eyes would make them stop-as long as the pups sell they don't care.
it is a minefield buying a pup

You're right, it is a minefield. All my research seems to have paid off and our pup is showing all the signs of being a good-un. Still got puberty to get through though, but we have socialised as much as possible and she appears to be a friendly, laid back, confident (without being over confident) young dog. Her mother and grandparents were all very easy going when we met them, so hopefully got it right this time.

If they are a licensed breeder you could try reporting the problem to the council. You could also try trading standards, some people have had luck in suing breeders for selling animals 'not fit for purpose' breeding from genetically faulty lines and I guess that a genetic temperament could fall under that same category. It is often a long drawn out process though leading to the small claims court.

I have to be honest though, when breeders like this continue to churn out 'faulty' animals and they take no responsibility it's no good passing the problem on, to a rescue or someone else, I would have the dog pts before any real harm is done as sad and awful as it is...

I so agree that it is the breeders responsibility, but look like they will not own up to it.  Many breed rescues cannot rehome a dog who has bitten/shown aggression, and lots certainly don't have the facilities or money to kennel a dog for the rest of it's life.  There comes a point with aggression when you have to ask can the problem ever be improved, is the dog a danger to family or others?  And if so, has the time come to PTS?