Now that the UK and I think all Western European countries have banned cropping and docking and won't even allow unnatural dogs to be shown, I wonder how this will effect the importation and exportation of dogs/puppies between the two continents. Have any of you heard of any UK breeders deciding to no longer import or export dogs/puppies to and from the US? I wonder if British breeders don't want to sell to American breeders because they're paranoid that the American breeder will crop/dock the dog to show it. Many American dogs won't be allowed to enter shows in the UK or Europe and I fear what will happen is every breed will start to develop two types: American and European/British. Any thoughts on this?

The importation of cropped dogs won't change at all, because the law regarding them hasn't changed - they've not been allowed to compete in any KC event for decades (the cropping ban is over 100 years old, but I don't know when the KC ban for ovrseas dogs came into force). A few used to be imported for breeding, but with the advent of pet passports there's less need for this. I do however know of UK breeders of certain breeds are reluctant to export to the US in case the dog is cropped over there.

There are already often clear differences in breed type between US and UK dogs in many breeds, even in those never cropped or docked.

I remember seeing quite a number of American imports at Crufts before the tail docking ban was passed back in 2007. This year, there were far, far fewer and I don't think it's a coincidence at all!

Before the docking ban, there were many breeds that could be shown both in the US and the UK. Now that docked dogs are not allowed to show in the UK, that disqualifies American-bred dogs from a very substantial number of breeds - almost all of the gundog and terrier breeds for starters!

I just wonder if anyone can confirm or refute my fear that UK and European breeders no longer want to deal with US breeders in terms of selling or buying dogs and puppies for breeding and showing.

Now that docked dogs are not allowed to show in the UK, that disqualifies American-bred dogs from a very substantial number of breeds - almost all of the gundog and terrier breeds for starters!

You can still show docked dogs, as long as they were legally docked (which they will have been abroad) and the show doesn't charge the public an entry fee.

There is no problem in buying a puppy from the  USA or anywhere else, pups are not born with cropped ears and tail so you ask that your pup is not pruned. If you wish to use a stud the fact he is docked or cropped is not a problem neither is importing an adult for show - can't really understand where the OP is coming from or what the problem is perceived to be.

Here's what I'm trying to say: Many breeds are docked in the U.S. Before the 2007 UK ban on docking, these American-bred dogs were able to attain both British and American championship titles. Since docked American dogs now can't become British champions, they're not worth much to British breeders' programs. Why? Because breeders need to see that a particular dog can win in their (the breeder's) own country before they add that dog's genes to their breeding program as a way of ensuring that the puppies produced will be able to win shows.

Now, with more American dogs being disqualified from showing in the UK, fewer American dogs will be used in British programs and vice versa. I'm worried we will start seeing all breeds develop into either American types or British/European types if the bloodlines around the world stop intermingling (Australia also seems to be turning away from incorporating American bloodlines).

Do any of you know any breeders personally who've said they will no longer import/export to and from the U.S. or use any American dogs for breeding purposes SINCE and BECAUSE OF the 2007 ban??

Since docked American dogs now can't become British champions, they're not worth much to British breeders' programs.

Who said they can't become Champions? Of course they can -there are still shows that don't charge the public to get in!! Several champ shows opted to charge for car parking instead of charging the public to get in, to allow docked dogs to be shown.

We currently have a two American docked dogs being shown in our breed born after 2007. Both have tickets and will no doubt be made up. They're unable to show them at East of England, Leeds, Crufts and LKA (there are probably a few others but I can't think of them).

And I know of at least one dog that was sent out to America and was cropped and docked!

One of my breeds is now a tailed dog, many dogs from Ireland are still docked and shown and imported across, no issues with showing bar the few shows above already mentioned.

Canada is showing a leading trend in not cropping and docking in some breeds too..

Oh, my mistake. I thought all UK shows banned docked dogs, but I see it's just the ones that charge the public entrance fees. Okay, that's cleared up. Thank you. :)

I thought all UK shows banned docked dogs, but I see it's just the ones that charge the public entrance fees.

The shows haven't banned the dogs, the 2006 Animal Welfare Act bans post 2007 docked dogs being show at shows that charge an entrance fee

2006 \Animal Welfare Act

(9)A person commits an offence if--
(a)he shows a dog at an event to which members of the public are admitted on payment of a fee,
(b)the dog's tail has been wholly or partly removed (in England and Wales or elsewhere), and
(c)removal took place on or after the commencement day.