Does anyone have any concrete evidence in the form of a photo or video, of either a dog physically mating through a wire fence or a sheep physically mating through a wire stock fence or maybe even a pet rabbit mating through it's wire netted run. 
Remember there are lots of "old wives tales" and hearsay is not what I am interested in! 
I am asking for actual proof!! a picture or video
I believe in where there is a will there is a way! but our livestock are not stupid they will jump over, climb, dig, go through, go round to get to the very tasty girl on the other side, and many return to their rightfull teritory after the deed is done.
I find it very difficult to believe that these animals can stand on tip toe flat up against a fence with a girl lined up on the other side exactly in line for penetration to take place on the other side of the fence.  Neither do they have a penis that can work backwards or sideways.

It certainly does take place but who on earth needs to take photographic evidence!!!!

I have seen it happen, but I didn't take a photo, I dealt with the situation!

Two dogs and a wire mesh fence, not the selected stud dog, but thankfully compatible with the bitch.  She clearly had her own ideas!

I've personally seen sheep doing it, but was far too busy with the other stock I was working with to go and fetch a camera.

Can you or anyone else describe exactly how it happens? Beacuse I am unable to imagine the supposed position and the ability to penetrate the female to fertilise her ! In other words I don't believe it can happen unless the fence is just 2 strands of barbed wire or electric strands.
There must be someone who has been lucky enough to have witnessed this event and taken a picture of some kind.
But there again "Old wives tales" and hearsay never do have pictures do they! 

Yes and I've seen pigs fly!    and I also was too busy with other jobs to get my camera to take a picture!
As I have said previously the only evidence is in a picture.

Oh hardy har. Thanks for calling me a liar. If I produced a photo you're the sort of person who'd insist it had been photoshopped, so what's the point?

Yes absolutely a fixed photo, I was waiting for that one and now it's bound to happen. Brilliant!
You see, even such a knowledgable person as yourself, have still not described the witnessed position of the 2 animals.

Jeangenie I suspect this is a wind up...like you I have seen it happen. We do not need to prove what we have seen with our own eyes...do we & it wasnt 'old wives tales'!!!

> even such a knowledgable person as yourself

You see, the problem is that either a) JG is a liar or b) you are incorrect. You cannot be correct unless you can produce written evidence that it IS impossible (you expect JG to produce a photo as evidence) - we have only your opinion. On the other hand we have JG's word that she has the evidence of her eyes. Having known JG for 10/11 years, I know that I would tend to believe her word rather than your theory that it is impossible :)

I was hoping perhapes that I would get sufficent sensible information from my original post. But at the same time doubted that this site would come up with any reasonable answers !!

I have never and would never call someone who I do not know a "Liar"!!
And your "evidence" is only hearsay.
 

> And your "evidence" is only hearsay

You haven't come up with any to prove that it is impossible - so 'hearsay' too

If you "put on a sensible head" and thought carefully about the mechanics of how these animals copulate you would understand just how impractical and impossible it would be for these animals to perform these acts through  fences, unless 2 strands of loose wire are considered an apropriate fence.

Before I put you on Ignore (so don't bother replying to me because I shan't see it), let me describe how it happened. The ewe was one side of the stock fence and the tup the other. The tup was a taller breed than the ewe and, on his hind legs, could put his front legs over the top of the stock wire which, as I'm sure you know, has larger spaces at the top than at the bottom. With his front legs over the fence he could get close enough to the ewe to  be able to perform.

And remember, if you say someone isn't telling the truth you're calling them a liar.

Hearsay is me saying I know someone who said they had heard that it happened.  I saw it happen, therefore I know it is possible.  If you are not prepared to accept two people saying here that they have seen it first hand we cant really help you any further, if you had a few people saying I know someone who knows someone who knows someone then fair enough.  Finding two dogs in that position my first thought is for the dogs welfare, not that's funny, I'll take a photo.

It is not difficult to imagine, front legs can fit through wire mesh, dogs are barely out of the normal position.  I'm not saying it's common, but it can and does happen.

as the person who witnessed the 'event' it's certainly not hearsay - as I haven't witnessed such an event it would be hearsay if I said that I knew someone who'd witnessed the event.
to contradict someone who states that they have seen such an event is in fact calling them a liar and whilst you may find it hard to believe that animals on either side of a fence can get together, it is perhaps your lack of imagination which is at fault... anyone witnessing such an event is unlikely to be interested in photographing it... most people aren't bothered whether or not you believe in the possibility or the likelihood so you should either continue to ignore people who tell you it's possible or accept that it is, but generally no one is concerned either way.

If you look and know what the. natural urges of animals whether it be dogs , cats or humans , they will make it happen.

You just have to look at the human text book that goes back for centuries that gives guidance on positions that can be achieved ;-)

Maybe also look at asking the BBC to see if they can commission a programme to get the footage :-)

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Oh hardy har. Thanks for calling me a liar. If I produced a photo you're the sort of person who'd insist it had been photoshopped, so what's the point?

also unless writing a piece on breeding why would you photograph mating dogs??? slightly odd!

I agree and why I didnt respond... :-(