Have seen an ad for my breed this week which is both funny and appalling!  Bet very few of you know that the way to guarantee no "Interbreeding" is to make sure your dog and bitch are both bought from different towns!  This particular breeder, who is apparently a member of a society which is "against interbreeding and cross breeding" (that's only a few words from the societies title) says they acquired their dog from Peterbroough and the bitch from Brimingham to ensure no relationship!  Actually, the kennels they say the dogs came from are actially in Lincolnshire and Tyne & Wear, but perhaps they are not good at geography. ;)  They say they are so fervently against "interbreeding" that to ensure it does not happen with their pups they are being sold without KC reg (work the logic out for that one, it escapes me).  One of the pups has a partially white paw, and this is advertised as being evidence he carries the "rare white gene" (rather than a mismark common form mating black to fawn).   And of course, the fact they are not "interbred" means the pups will be lifelong healthy.  IF it was April 1st already would have taken it as an April fool!

oh deary me

The sad fact is, there are members of the public who will read this and believe every word :(

It's terrible isn't it :( I have one lady who lives on my street who owns and plans to breed her Puggle (it's the ugliest dog I've ever seen, she looks like ET!) and literally opposit their is a young girl who has a malamute x German shepherd, a six month old malamute bitch who is a 'rare' red and who she plans to breed soon. Oh and she has an 'original' Pomeranian?! It's taller than my Westie! It'll never stop unless they're more stringent rules on advertising!

Beggars belief that people are still being taken in by these 'breeders'  considering it's easy enough to research on the internet :-(

I've seen several 'puggles' and they really are the most ugly dogs :-(     ET is about right       which is why, when you google them, you'd be lucky to find a pic of any adults.  Why anyone would buy one is beyond me.

Why anyone would buy one is beyond me.

They don't buy a puppy they buy into a name (a trend)

I have recently had a call to groom a Pekeachon.  (Bichon x Pekinese). The lady seemed so proud of it. Especially telling me that the mother also had some yorkie in her as well. Where I come from a  mix of several different dogs is called a Mongrel. I didn't say that to her though.

I have booked the dog in for a groom but I must admit I am a bit worried with what I might find with that cross. my mind is boggling about a peke coat with bichon curls. And she did say it had a few knots.

In my experience, if the owner says the dog has a few knots, it's more likely to be matted     Hope this isn't the case for you.  

I think it's about time trading standards clarified the situation.    If it's not a Pure bred, then it's either a crossbred or mongrel.   

Nothing wrong with mongrels,  I've owned and known some lovely ones. 

My big problem is with people promoting ill-advised crosses of breeds and giving them a kitschy name, purely as a money maker.  Then claiming all sorts of dubious health and temperament benefits

Bet she paid a sum with a few noughts for it !

Speaking of rare genes I've been seeing ads from a breeder who all ways seems to have litters for imperial shih tzus calling them a smaller variation of the breed and there so rare they had to import there dogs from America. They also come in extra colours than normal shih tzu. So breeding undersized unacceptable colours and charging £1000 - £2500 for them.

Wow! Do they register them as an 'Unrecognised Colour'?

It's even worse in Pugs Jo, we don't seem to have too much influx of "teacup" pugs (yet) but the rare colours are all over the place, and at the daftest prices.  £5000 for a white pug!  Looking at the photos can be fun - spot the breed it was crossed with :)  Usually easy to see peke/frenchi/bulldog in the mix.  Brindles, Platinums, Chocolates - you name it there is a pug that colour it seems, all terribly rare and costing in excess of £2500.  The bright spot on the horizon seems to be there is a bit of a Ponzi type thing gong on - there is a group of the "rare colour" fans who are buying these pups at silly prices and then justify asking this price again for pups 'coz that is what they paid, and another one of the group buys the pup to breed and sell on to another one of the gang!  Has to reach a point when they all have enough, and the people willing ot pay silling money for mongrels or mismarks runs out.

At least 1 white "pug" stud is said to come from Ch parents - from Eastern Europe!

Surely these people must be disappointed when they're little Choco-Pug grows up and looks nothing like a Pug? Isn't the entire purpose of buying a pedigree dog is to have one which looks how it should? Beggars belief. However when you're bored essay writing (as I am tonight incidentally), browsing through the free ads can be a nice distraction. Spot the most downright ridiculous ad is a game I play. Well if you don't laugh, you'll cry!

i have a breed thats been talked about i cant say as we have alitter and 1 not sold yet....i cant find the best home as yet.....anyway there are so many coss breeds with this breed the 1 they use most is a cav why both breed are stunning without having to cross well ive seen them asking for £800 :-O thats why!!!

I groom pets for a living and I'm totally fed up of it to be honest, its common place to see all these crosses every other day.  Shih-poos, anything-chons, cock-a-peke-a-poo, shorkie, morkie, and the likes ... I don't want to be part of it anymore especially when the majority of the owners do not have a clue how to look after the coat and ask me EXACTLY how the dog is going to turn out when adult??!!!  Well, how long is a piece of string?!!  I ask them what the sire and dam looked like etc., but obviously its anyones guess what size, shape, colour these pups are going to end up.  I do my best to educate people on coat care etc, based on my knowledge of the breeds supposedly involved to begin with, and brush until they get fed up and the novelty wears off and eventually these dogs become another once-a-year or twice-a-year clip-off statistic.  Dear oh me.  :-)

The sad fact is, there are members of the public who will read this and believe every word

Sad but true, like the one..... to make sure   the   ??poo you buy does not moult, the dam must be the  poodle !!!!

Hi I am new to this forum, and would love to get involved with all if you don't mind, I have a cracking 7 month old Tibetan terrier called Ollie, who will soon have a playmate who I have named "Harry" not related at all. I have fallen head over heels for this breed, and could see that Ollie desperately needed a playmate, it will be lovely to watch them grow up together. I don't work and I live on the beautiful Isle of Anglesey, doggy heaven, as there are so many coastal walkways and beaches to play on.
Anyway Like you guys I don't agree with all this crossbreeding, I believe anyone who wants to breed should have to apply for a license (an expensive one) and be scrutinised by the RSPCA to prove that they will be responsible breeders. I think it should be against the law for puppies not to be registered. Even none pedigree dogs should have to be registered to enable to keep tracks of them. It sickens me to know there are puppy farms and ignorant people just out to make money. I would love to have the experience of breeding, but I don't have any experience so for the time being its a no go area, I want to enjoy and learn from Ollie and Harry just what this bread is all about.
regards
Bonnie

Will only comment on the first part of your post Bonnie - please wait at least another 5 months before you bring in another puppy, more if the one you have is still a bit wayward and non responsive to you. Now is the time for you to bond with your puppy, train him, love him and have him learn to accompany you and behave himself, you may also find he becomes a handful when he reaches the teenage stage and it is best if you only have the one till that stage is over and he has learned to become a gentleman.

Bet very few of you know that the way to guarantee no "Interbreeding" is to make sure your dog and bitch are both bought from different towns

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Please tell me that someone put that point right, you can't let that one stand. 

They say they are so fervently against "interbreeding" that to ensure it does not happen with their pups they are being sold without KC reg

Gulp!

One of the pups has a partially white paw, and this is advertised as being evidence he carries the "rare white gene" (rather than a mismark common form mating black to fawn).   And of course, the fact they are not "interbred" means the pups will be lifelong healthy.

What!!! Good grief, in my ideal world they should have a very large sub title saying "We are misleading puppy farmers or breeders with no idea of what we talk and will be ripping you all off right left and centre, due to being complete idiots or con artists (the jury is out) - hand over your cash and take your perfect puppy"

Dear, dear some poor souls out there will believe every word no doubt.

I know Carrington, but it's on an ad so no chance to reply or question.  Have wondered if they just made the whole thing up or if they have dug some misleading bits and pieces out from various less than reliable websites?  Has to be one of the worst ad I have ever read :)

I've come across this add as well, it is rather confusing. They say they are against cross breeding but then say the grandmother is a pure white pug, is that even possible?  The pup itself does not have the chunky look of a pug pup, has a longer, narrower face.

It sounds like they have been spun a tale by the breeder of their bitch as the information sounds repeated and believed rather than made up.  Hope they didn't pay too much extra for the rare gene that produces these white markings, my pug got the markings thrown in for free :)