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Topic Other Boards / Foo / Nurse in Kate hoax call found dead
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 07.12.12 19:11 UTC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20645838

So so tragic.
- By Ida [gb] Date 07.12.12 19:59 UTC
This is just such incredibly sad news. What devastating unintended consequences of a silly hoax.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 07.12.12 20:30 UTC
The poor, poor woman must have felt such unbearable guilt and shame at what she saw as her betrayal of the royal family. :-( Her husband and children must be totally devastated. What a tragic end to a very stupid and pointless prank.
- By dorcas0161 [gb] Date 07.12.12 20:52 UTC
Perhaps she was also going to be discipined by her employers. Also the worlds media would have wanted to see her, perhaps just too much pressure to bear. How very sad, that she should take her own life, for one little mistake.
- By Carrington Date 07.12.12 21:14 UTC
Who doesn't make the odd mistake at work, at the time it may feel terrible especially if given a telling off for it, but it passes, I can't believe that she killed herself over this especially having children of her own. The saddest thing of all is this time next year she may well have been laughing about it.

IMO people impersonating others to get information should be done for fraud, something should be done.

It certainly was not the nurses fault, lets be honest family members are allowed to ask about patients in hospital there are no checks other than asking if you are a family member, she did nothing wrong.

It is tragic that she was perhaps made to feel so terrible or was so hard on herself that she wanted to die, what an absolute waste of a life.......... her family must be in pieces..... all for a silly joke........
- By JeanSW Date 07.12.12 21:31 UTC
It is probably not as straightforward as it sounds.  After all, she was not the nurse who actually divulged any information.  She just extended a call.  And the royal couple had made no complaint.

Perhaps this was just the straw that broke the camels back.  It seems inconceivable that someone would commit suicide when it wasn't them that had provided personal details about Kate.
- By dorcas0161 [gb] Date 07.12.12 21:46 UTC
Apparently she answered the call and put it through, so perhaps she did not follow procedure. Because the call was in the early hours of the morning, the normal receptionist was not on duty according to the press reports.
People panic in certain situations, we will probably never know what drove her to it, unless she left a note, but nothing mentioned in the press.
Just such a shame, and I feel so sorry for her family.
A friend of my daughters a young man took his own life a few years back, and the worst thing was for others trying to think why he had done it, and if they could have done anything to change things. My daughter said, if only he had phoned mum, or just let us know, we would have all gone and hugged him.
- By kazz Date 08.12.12 05:29 UTC
What a sad piece of news. I hope the radio presenter do not now get hounded otherwise we could find this continues in a circle - I know this may be OTT but this time yesterday the thought the nurse would be in the headlines for another reason were OTT.

No one will ever know I imagine what was in this ladys head, sometimes evn the best intentions are misunderstood when we are under stress.

I feel for all concerned.
- By Charlie Brown [gb] Date 08.12.12 06:34 UTC
Agreed JeanSW, rarely is it just the one thing that pushes someone to the edge enough to take their own life.

It's so sad that two children have lost their Mum.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 08.12.12 08:26 UTC

>I hope the radio presenter do not now get hounded


To be honest I hope they get hounded enough to grow up and not play such stupid pranks, and that everyone else learns how cruel these 'jokes' actually are.
- By Dogz Date 08.12.12 11:24 UTC
Thats a bit harsh............a hounding too can cause somone to go over the edge.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 08.12.12 11:26 UTC Edited 08.12.12 11:28 UTC
They were still playing the call after they'd been told about the death. The station had issued an apology, but the DJ was repeatedly playing it. That's not showing a huge amount of remorse.
- By Dogz Date 08.12.12 11:31 UTC
Stupid, stupid people! I still wouldn't do the same, I'd hate to cause any kind of mental anguish, though perhaps they dont have the capacity?
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 08.12.12 11:44 UTC
Apparently this poor woman had been on the receiving end of some pretty horrid messages - totally uncalled for! This is what comes of people thinking they need to know everything about everyone and to hell with the consequences. None of us needed to know that Kate was pregnant until she was ready to divulge that information, but this insatiable need that the media have to feed the machine with every detail (which is then gobbled up by avid people with nothing else to do) means that they had to announce it or suffer speculation about why she was in hospital. Does anyone really believe that the press pack outside the hospital wouldn't have hounded staff for every little bit of gossip about this hoax? Does anyone think that this poor woman would have been left alone to get on with her life as normal?

Everyone who posted on facebook or twitter about this hoax, vilifying 'security' and probably calling for heads to roll, the TV and radio stations and the newspapers who printed the detail, all of these people are as bad as the radio presenters who perpetrated the original hoax call. I really hate this intrusive society where everyone thinks that everything is in the public interest. The media have learned nothing and we expect them to be able to regulate themselves? They couldn't even control themselves for 5 minutes when they heard Kate was pregnant!

I feel so sad for this lady and her family and I sincerely hope that this tragedy means these inane hoax calls are banned from everywhere - they are cruel and bullying and serve no one and that people learn to think about the consequences before they send comments winging round the world or buy a newspaper or magazine because of the gossip on the cover!
- By Oldilocks [gb] Date 08.12.12 12:12 UTC

>I feel so sad for this lady and her family and I sincerely hope that this tragedy means these inane hoax calls are banned from everywhere - they are cruel and bullying and serve no one and that people learn to think about the consequences before they send comments winging round the world or buy a newspaper or magazine because of the gossip on the cover!


Couldn't agree more Dakkobear!
- By Dogz Date 08.12.12 15:28 UTC
Well put Dakko............
- By AlisonGold [fr] Date 08.12.12 16:56 UTC
Ah but you have to feel sorry for them though, I mean now they need counselling. Pity they didn't think about repercussions before they committed the act. Sadly counselling isn't going to help that nurse. RIP
- By Treacle [gb] Date 09.12.12 19:49 UTC
I wonder whether the nurse had other problems - I mean I am sure she felt awful about the call, but it wouldn t drive most people over the edge would it? All very sad.
- By Lacy Date 09.12.12 20:59 UTC

> I wonder whether the nurse had other problems - I mean I am sure she felt awful about the call, but it wouldn t drive most people over the edge would it?


Sorry but to me that has little relevance to the hoax or its tragic outcome, people need to think of the effect of such mindless behaviour on others. OK it might not effect you, but no one is the same & the two DJ's would have known it would go global if they succeeded. So they now need counselling, well tough, at least they have got people around to look after them.
Poor Kate also, she didn't I imagine wish for the public to know about her pregnancy so early on, ended up in hospital with the media camped outside, people speculating that she could be having twins, what happens to the succession if she has a cesarean & now this. All because two prats thought it would be a good laugh! So so sad,
- By Nova Date 09.12.12 21:02 UTC
I wonder whether the nurse had other problems

It is hard to say, she is of a different culture so the shame of such a mistake may have been too much to bear. Think perhaps we need to wait for the corners report.
- By PDAE [gb] Date 09.12.12 21:45 UTC
Actually I also feel that something else had to be going on and this just pushed her too far.  So sad for actually all concerned.  I don't listen to radio stations that do that kind ofthing as I have never liked it but there are plenty of them that do it....

Lets hope that the heads of such radio stations realise what can happen and stop doing this kind of thing.
- By Nova Date 09.12.12 22:57 UTC
Actually I also feel that something else had to be going on

You may be right and we know she was having to live away from her home and children but I still feel that perhaps her culture means that she would have felt she had bought disgrace on her children and family and then it is easier to understand. I also agree that we should not really be speculating it is still appalling that a childish prank of self advertisement has led to so much sorrow be it the whole reason and just the final straw.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 10.12.12 08:05 UTC

>I still feel that perhaps her culture means that she would have felt she had bought disgrace on her children and family and then it is easier to understand.


Absolutely right. Personal and family honour is much more important in many cultures than it is in our own. We have developed a culture of 'not my fault, blame someone else and if possible sue them' so the idea of punishing oneself for one's own mistakes is all but incomprehensible.
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 10.12.12 19:03 UTC
Yes she probably did have other things going on and the prank was the final straw that pushed her over the edge...whcih goes back to the same point that everyone is making - the prank should not have been done in the first place.
I was (mildly) bullied as a youngster and witness it occasionally as I work in a school. It is very sad that what someone sees as harmless 'pranks' can have such an effect on somebodys life - pranks are no better than persistant bullying which is totally unacceptable in todays society

I will be intrigues to know what happens to the two reporters.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 10.12.12 21:37 UTC
One of them has said that 'they never expected to be put through; they thought they'd be hung up on and that'd be funny' ... so why did they broadcast it when that didn't happen? It wasn't going out live, it was recorded and run past the lawyers (who forgot to point out that under Oz law as well as UK law it's illegal to record phone calls secretly) before it was aired.
- By paws2meetu [gb] Date 11.12.12 11:38 UTC
I always feel so incredibly sorry for the families that are left behind in these cases.  Three people I know, in the last year, have committed suicide and left children and partners behind..........so very sad.
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