Actually, you said "No staffie would stand another large dog coming up to them and wag their tail" and that is just not true. And that's not the same as saying they don't like to!! As someone who owns staffs you'll be aware of how much bad press they recieve. Don't perpetuate it!!!
All i'm saying is that since there are many staffs that are fine and tolerant with other dogs, surely breeders should be avoiding dogs that show intolerance!!?!?

Annette

OK, I'll say to you "Gosh all staffs are fantastic with all dogs and there is never never a problem. You let your dog go bounding over and they will all think it is fantastic"
Please, when a staffie or any other dog reacts not very happily at your dog and your dog ends up hurt do not wonder why!
I do know staffies and I do know the bad press they get. Alot of the bad press is incorrect links to attacking children. Now ask me that subject and I would say there is no better dog with children and that bad press is usually a cross breed getting labelled a staffie. I KNOW the potential of staffies with other dogs and you obviously do not.
Have you even ever owned one or watched at the staffie ring in a show??? Yes some are fantastic some a little less happy with other dogs.
At least Mr Murphy has the experience of Bull Breeds and I would hope he does admit that rightly or wrongly not ALL staffs/ ISBT etc are good with other dogs. It is FACT.
All I am doing is stressing the point that not all staffs should be judged the same and until the nature of each one is known then be responsible. Ask any rottie, dobe, GSD, etc breeder if EVERY known dog in their breed is exactly the same???
Surely to stop bad press, which you seem concerned about, then it is best to avoid any trouble than cause it by being ignorant to the fact not all dogs are as sociable as others!

but staffie, you are labelling ALL staffies and being NOT good with dogs... that makes you just as wrong as anyone who says they all are... all dogs are different irrespective of breed... all oyu can say is that your dogs are not good with other dogs, end of story...

My dogs are fine with other dogs, in fact the male is too fine! :D And yes i have been to stafford shows, many of them, and i dont hear dogs grumbling to each other in the ring - what i do hear is dogs shreaming their heads off in their cages - i am never sure if this is because other dog sare there or they dont like being in there, as most (all if have responsible owners) have their cages covered so they cant see otehrs. Also, i do believe it is because there owners bugger off and leave them to it - my breeder, and all those that i know through the ring, stay with their dogs and dont accept and grumbling or barking either in the ring or in their cages...

I would say that a staffie is as reliable with other dogs as any other well socialised well bought up dog is expected to be...

Also, your blanket statement about all staffords being good with children - yes i know that most are - but (same as with retrievers) i dont want people running up to my dogs and petting them because they are "great with kids" - in fact my bitch is not very good with little people and i have to keep a very close eye on her if my sis brings her kids round - though out of the house she is fine as she can remove herself from where they are.

Shall we just all agree that no-one can make generalisations about anything?

Exactley Lel, we put ours on their leads if we see other dogs coming. That way we can see if they are OK together, if so then fine. It is far better to be safe then have one incident and have to say "Oh! He/she has never done that before" because it only takes once and that is another bad report for a staffy, and it would be the staffy getting the blame no matter who started it!! :-(

Staffie
I couldnt have said it better
Lel

Thank you all, I'm sorry I got a bit anoid but I was very worried about the situation. Thank you especially to Brainless, this method seems to be working. I have continued to keep him on a leash when he is near the pup and every time he growls I scold him and put him outside. He seems to be looking to me for the appropriate way to behave around her now trying to please me.

Karen

I am glad that he is looking for guidance from you, that is how it chould be if he views you as the boss. A dog may have natural inclinations to do one thing, but we teach it what is acceptable, and because of the way a dog is, a pack animal, it will accept that it's own will has to be subjugated to appease the leader and keep harmony in the pack.

That's great!! i'm glad he's behaving better :) Well done!

Annette

Sounds very promising, at the end of the day it is important that any dog looks to its owner for cues as to how to behave, we can all practice basic obedience commands and useful phrases such as Leave, Give, etc and praise for correct and acceptable behaviour. I'm really glad things are settling down a bit between the dogs :)

Lindsay

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