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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Dutch show 1922 - Film clip
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.11.12 18:46 UTC
http://www.filminnederland.nl/film/hondententoonstelling Japanese chin looks very typical.

The Boston looks like a staffy cross.
- By Nova Date 10.11.12 19:17 UTC
Don't the dogs look cowered and scared - sad.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.11.12 19:28 UTC
I did think that, but of course they would not have been used to filming equipment, probably big cameras etc.  Many of the dogs would have been country/kennel dogs.
- By Dawn-R Date 10.11.12 19:34 UTC
Wow how the breeds have changed!

Thank goodness :) They look so alien back then.

Dawn R.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.11.12 19:44 UTC
Apart from the level of coat preparation (and amount of furnishings) and the ear cropping I thought some of the breeds still looked pretty recongizeable and in fact I prerfered the more moderate heads on the St Bernards.

Thought the greyhounds rather a motley sort and the Borzois with the collie ears a bit strange.

Now that hairy mop do you think it was a poorly groomed Briard?
- By Dawn-R Date 10.11.12 19:55 UTC
Yes, I thought Briard with a very heavy coat. The Boston!!!! OMG, just saying like.

The Irish Setters were an ugly bunch though, and trimming was non-existent. I find todays Irish altogether more appealing.

Dawn R.
- By japmum [gb] Date 10.11.12 21:14 UTC
The chins looked exactly the same as those of today  which was great to see.Found some breeds quite scary looking with the cropped ears,thank goodness we don't see that now.

The breed which if I hadn't been told what is was ,that I would never have identified was the boxers.Their head shape has changed quite dramatically
- By PDAE [gb] Date 10.11.12 21:17 UTC
Think the hairy mop was a Barbet it said French Water Dog I think just before it at least that one was happy.
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 11.11.12 09:26 UTC
Quite a few of them were very recognisable, thought the Charlies looked very like the modern ones. The Scottie didn't have much coat compared to today did he!!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 11.11.12 10:17 UTC Edited 11.11.12 10:26 UTC

> The breed which if I hadn't been told what is was,that I would never have identified was the boxers.Their head shape has changed quite dramatically


Now I recognised the Boxers but am used to seeing them cropped from holidays in Europe.  the main thing I notices about them is they were what we would call plain (little white) and the topline was more average dog compared to the in some cases exaggeratedly high withers in some show boxers in some countries (US mainly I'm thinking).

Loved the Laekenois (sp), he was the happiest dog in the clip and looked just like the ones Hazel Pond (Zhale) had in the late 80's.

Considering that those dogs were born nearly a century ago, it was very pleasing to see so many that have not changed too much. 

The Harli  Great Dane was better than many pet ones we see.  I rather liked the hardly trommed wire terrier breeds (except teh Scottie), and if we still showed them liek that perhaps more peopel woudl be keen to own them, as I do think the high level of trimming puts people off the breeds..

We didn't see hardly any of the dogs 'presented' in show stance, they were as we would expect to see them on the bench or tied up. 

Strangely some of the unhappiest seeming were the toy breeds, which is strange as you'd expect they were more likely to be kept as indoor pets than most of the others.

Of course you have to ignore coats, we care for them much more, nutrition in both dogs and people can be better these days (remember the average British soldier in the first world war was 5'4" tall with just a 34 inch chest!
- By ChristineW Date 11.11.12 19:46 UTC
The group of  'Irish' Setters standing definitely had tan markings, its visible on their legs.  I think they are probably the Gordons!  The front on the Weimaraner is appalling, the Pointer so coarse in the head compared to today's dish faced specimens.
- By FlyingFinn [gb] Date 11.11.12 20:39 UTC
I love those old videos. It's interesting how the hounds were so close to what they are now ei. the Pointer and Weimeraner etc, whereas the Doberman was almost unrecognisable.
Most breeds were so much smaller back then like those Irish's, who looked more like spaniels.
Like the longer snout on the boxers though otherwise they looked pretty awful.
- By Chillington [pt] Date 11.11.12 20:49 UTC
Lisbon Dog Show in 1922

http://www.cinemateca.pt/Cinemateca-Digital/Ficha.aspx?obraid=2548&type=Video
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 11.11.12 21:58 UTC
Interesting film, look out for the black dog 7 minutes in with the split nose.
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 11.11.12 22:09 UTC
Just found that there is/was such a breed as the double nose Spanish (or Turkish) pointer.
- By Chillington [pt] Date 11.11.12 22:18 UTC
Pachon Navarro.
- By MsTemeraire Date 11.11.12 22:18 UTC
"Think the hairy mop was a Barbet it said
French Water Dog I think just before"

If it was the one following the Laekenois then it said Fransche Herdershond, so a sheepdog and most likely a Briard.

I liked the Dutch Shepherd, interesting to see that though its ears were taller than Dutch/Malinois show dogs of today, nowhere near as big as the satellite dishes on the current working line Dutch/Malis.
- By MsTemeraire Date 11.11.12 23:02 UTC

> Lisbon Dog Show in 1922
> [url=undefined]http://www.cinemateca.pt/Cinemateca-Digital/Ficha.aspx?obraid=2548&type=Video[/url]


That was priceless, thanks for posting.
The people were as fascinating as the dogs - the fashions and the way they interacted with them. Not sure what all the sighthounds were, I assume some were greyhounds but the others were maybe Galgos? There were a lot of them. And wow - the split nose dogs! Oh and the GSDs and the 'working trials' bit. What a treasure.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.11.12 10:48 UTC
Now the Pointers there (Spanish show) were very recognisable.  As for the Doberman in the Dutch clip, I think the cropped ears throw people, but if your used to looking at cropped dogs then it's not such a leap.

Liked the Charlie shots and I assume those were Pekingese, much nicer than the modern version, more like heavier Tibbies.
- By Tessies Tracey Date 13.12.12 03:24 UTC
From the first clip -

Nice smack on the nose at 5:41 (approx)... :(

The Boxers look like American Staffordshire Terriers a bit.

WOW @ the Boston Terrier!!!  Really?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 13.12.12 10:33 UTC

> WOW @ the Boston Terrier!!!  Really?


Looks more like a Frenchie to me
- By Admin (Administrator) Date 13.12.12 12:36 UTC
Very interesting link Barbara. Thank you for posting it. It really shows how 'timeless' the Irish Wolfhound is :)
- By malwhit [gb] Date 15.12.12 19:46 UTC
I loved the majority of dogs in the second video - but thought "yuk" when I saw the pointers with the split nose!

Looking at the terriers, most would not look out of place at a working terrier show. I have been to some of these shows in the last few years and I fell love the look of Patterdales. I just wish they had the calmer temperament of Mini Schnauzers - or should I say I wish my Schnauzers had the coat of a working terrier!
- By Trevor [gb] Date 15.12.12 20:40 UTC
loved the eyes on the Laekenois - a perfect shape and colour ! - good to see how little the breed has changed

Yvonne
- By chaumsong Date 16.12.12 00:33 UTC

> the Borzois with the collie ears a bit strange


I don't think the borzois had changed much at all apart from in presentation, most people trim all the fluffy hair from their ears to make their ears look smaller, when they are alert and put their ears up they are the shape of the bitch in the film, like this.

For me the boston was definitely the one that bore elast resemblance to the modern day dog.
- By chaumsong Date 16.12.12 00:35 UTC

> It really shows how 'timeless' the Irish Wolfhound is


I thought the Irish Wolfhound looked much lighter boned than todays dogs, between the wolfhound and deerhound of todays show ring?
- By waggamama [gb] Date 16.12.12 15:43 UTC
If you handstrip you could have the coat of a working terrier, two of my bitches have been hand stripped (one still is) and the coat was very harsh and weather proof.

I liked the look of the Standard Schnauzer in the video, looked very similar to how they are now.
Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Dutch show 1922 - Film clip

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