Here are some off the top of my mind,

- Both parties health tested
- Assurance that owner of dam will pick extremely suitable homes so much so that i can now that if one of those pups is then bred from in future that THAT owner will do so also.
- both parties proven in the field/ring
- dam to be of a correct age/temperament etc
- getting on well with the owner of dam so much so that you can stay in touch and keep up on the progress of everything.
- breeder to keep any unsold pups and take back any if necessary

id want the puppies endorsed too

Its getting so hard to trust anyone nowadays, having a dog at stud is not worth the hassle. Even allowing a male to go as a potential stud but endorsed would be difficult as id want the new owner to keep same strict rules.

I don't have stud dogs, and never will. I have one entire male dog of each breed that CAN be used for stud work, but I would never dream of actively offering either dog. Every now and then I get a call from somebody unknown asking to use one of the dogs, the answer is always no. For me to say yes, it would not just be a question of all the health tests/right looks/right temperament being in place, I'd also want to already know the person with the bitch, or at the very least have been recommended the person from somebody I know and trust.

Agreed.I don't like the idea of actively offering a dog's service 'for sale'.

The owner of a stud dog I used requested names and contact details of all puppy owners.

I am only ever likely to  use my dogs on bitches who:

a) Are Owned by someone I know/respect/trust.
or
b) May be a combination -health wise which is interesting to me.

and never because I need/want the money

have to say I get some strange requests, including the latest one who says 'i looking for a stud dog for my (colour) bitch please contact me asap as she as started bleeding and i dont want to miss her as she has good temperment and want to keep 1 out of her litter', no response to my request for further information, pedigree, results of health tests (hip score & eye test in this case), reason for leaving it until the bitch is in season, reason for wanting to use my boy, experience and what she does with her dog(s)....... I have allowed one person (health tested & agility/flyball homes) to use him and will use him on my own and 'approved' bitches only

In addition to the points made above , also to ensure that the bloodlines , confirmation etc compliment each others and that physically as well as on paper the stud is a good match for the bitch and vice versa.

I have to agree that 99% of online requests for further info has resulted in no further contact, majority of the biches were already in season and in a handful of cases already "standing", as well as asking for more info I have made it clear that I would need to get to know the person before making a decision and that meant the current season wasn't an option.

Most aren't fussed as to which of my 2 unrelated  lads they use which  shows lack of colour combining knowledge in order to  maintain good pigment and strong colour.

It is so hard to have any control over what the bitch owner does after the deed has been done, contracts may have been discussed and signed but can be ignored and legally there seems to be very little you can do if this happens.

My recent experience with a KC Assured breeder who refused to endorse the registrations of the progeny of my boy and was outraged that I wrote on his stud page that I expect to be involved in the homing of the puppies has made me very wary of accepting stud requests. I have turned down several since that experience and will only allow him to be used on my own girls.

I simply don't think you get enquiries like that in our breed. 

All the people using KC registered stock are likely to know each other, and be 'in' the breed.  Owners of are only likely to be found though contact with the breed club/s and the code of ethics http://www.necgb.co.uk/page.php?page_ID=11 applies equally to both bitch and dog owners.

There are sadly the odd BYB litters, IKC turned into KC reg stock being bred from. 

Sadly the rest of the 'I want a  litter, just because' people are breeding from unregistered/DLRC stock among themselves with other BYB's.

> I simply don't think you get enquiries like that in our breed.

And at the polar opposite is my breed, probably the most abused and exploited breed in the UK.

A breed which needs the most considered approach to breeding... yet, with so many people wanting 'cash back' from their little dog, anything goes!

A recent email started off with the old guff about how much they love my dog... then cut to the chase, their bitch is in season, I live within an hours drive, and NO their little Pootsie hasnt had any health tests but she sees that I have..." congratulations -but my bitch doesnt need them, shes not a show dog, the vet says shes healthy".

Grrr..
I just say no as my default now, got any puppies?, no!... can I use your dog?...no! :-(

I simply don't think you get enquiries like that in our breed. 

Wait until somebody decides to use them as the latest designer cross.......I get enquiries for Malinois stud dogs to be used on all sorts of breeds.  Once on a Rottweiler btch, and guess what, on a certain website there is now such a litter advertised..... Guess somebody said yes! :( Same with Papillon, but at least there I also get requests for him to be used on Papillon bitches. You know "my bitch is in season, I searched the internet and you live closest to me"......

From Jan bending's post above.............. "I have turned down several since that experience and will only allow him to be used on my own girls."

I agree with you entirely and know how you feel. The ongoing view from the KC and ABS refusing to support responsible stud dog owners will just increase the lack of top quality and fully health tested studs available to breeders.

It seems to be a little known fact that once a KC Registered dog has sired a litter the owner of that dog has no rights at all in the KC registration process for the puppies it sired.

The ABS has issued instruction for a Stud Dog Contract requirement
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4146 but they do not go anywhere near committing themselves to protection for the involved parties as the FCI do http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/Breeding_EN.doc

> It seems to be a little known fact that once a KC Registered dog has sired a litter the owner of that dog has no rights at all

I don't think that is a little known fact is it?  I think you also have to ask whether bitch owners would like it any other way.

"I don't think that is a little known fact is it?" I believed it was but I'm glad to find someone appreciates and understands the position.

"I think you also have to ask whether bitch owners would like it any other way." I don't have to ask myself that! I already know the unscrupulous ones take advantage!

> I don't have to ask myself that! I already know the unscrupulous ones take advantage!

In that respect, selling your dogs services is really no different to selling a puppy.  You have to vet to your satisfaction but beyond that you can do nothing but trust in your judgement. 
If you cannot accept that I think you just have to either not breed or offer your dog at stud as I do not believe it can ever be right for the KC to remove the rights of the owner of that new litter or the individual puppy purchased.

> Wait until somebody decides to use them as the latest designer cross.

Already there, had someone at Discover dogs a few years ago wanting names of stud dog owners so they could use one on an Akita bitch to get better temperament!!

Sadly quite a few crossed with Husky's and GSD, but these are all using unregsitered/Irish puppy farm stock.

> I think you also have to ask whether bitch owners would like it any other way.

Well to put the shoe on the other foot the lady who I exported a bitch to in Australia where they have two tier registration system, Active (can be shown and puppies registered from) and 'non active' (can't be shown or bred from) and there are stud owners who will not allow the breeder to sell the pups on the 'Active Register' only the pup they keep.

So there you have the stud owner dictating to the breeder if the breeding line can be taken forward or not.

Much prefer endorsements.  It also allows people who decide a few years down the line to get involved more in the breed, without having to buy another dog if their current one is good enough.

I think the stud dog owner should pick the right owner of bitches, then have some say in what will happen, but I can't imagine stud dog owners taking in 6 unsold big pups for example at 8 weeks - really the bitch's owner has to have the final say over who's having the pups...