paid 500 euros deposit for a doberman pup the asking price was 2000, decided not to purchase pup because breeder said that pup needed work because he was nervous before he could let him go, what are yere opinions on this matter the breeder says theres no way i am getting money back as i wasted his time, his time must be very valuable when it costs 500 euro.

First off, most good breeders don't take deposits, because they want both buyer and breeder to be able to change their minds, so to me it would be a red flag. Secondly, is this a dog being imported? It seems awfully expensive. Thirdly, deposits are not normally refunded if the buyer changes their mind, that's what they are for, although in this case I'd say you could argue the "goods" (which dogs are in law) weren't as described and therefore you should be able to demand the deposit back. But what country is this? The law could be different to the UK of course, as you're talking about euros I assume it isn't here.

Could be Eire and agree with what Goldmali has said this pup has faults and is not fit for purpose so the money should be returned, think that would be the same in any country in Europe but you may have to fight for it. And yes that is too much anyway unless it includes the import costs.

bought the dog off someone who advertises on the breeder section of this site, he bred the dog himself said he sold two pups to italy and they were abused, thats the reason he gave me for pup being nervous, but that story doesnt add up because it would cost 1000 euro each to send tem to italy and the sme amount to bring them back, just warning peole what sort of a perso there dealing with if they buying a pup.

If you have concerns about a breeder on this site you MUST report them to Admin, otherwise they won't know about it.

I take a nominal deposit (to weed out time-wasters) of £50 (from people I have accepted to have a puppy), obviously one the pups arrive and are safe and well, which really is about the cost of fuel to  visit me for most potential owners.

As the others have said if the pup is not fit for sale then your deposit should be refunded.

Does seem an awful steep price if this is UK or Ireland I'd be expecting a price of between £800 - £1000 for well bred puppies.

I would seek the advice of the equivalent of Trading Standards people, and possibly take action in small claims court.

Dobermans should go for around £800-1000 at the moment I think??  That sort of money is too much for a pup - unless perhaps it is an incredibly amazingly titled litter which cost a lot to produce and is only available to working homes.  Which it doesn't sound like it is...

I think you did the right thing to refuse the pup because the breeder has said it is 'nervous' and needs more work:  The best place for it to receive one to one attention and 'work' would be in its new home with a dedicated and committed owner.  Personally, I wouldn't want a pup of any breed which is older than 7/8 weeks and definitely not a guarding breed which can be nervous and needs extra socialisation, like a Dobe.

I think you have every right to seek your money back:  Where do you draw the line?  If the breeder had said 'I want to keep this dog for a year', would you not be entitled to your money back?  If not, then any amount of time is too much.  The spoken agreement was that you get a pup at the age a pup should go (7/8wks), if he has changed the terms of this, it is not what you agreed to. 

Plus the whole Italy story sounds far too worrying.

I would report him to Admin on this board - since they won't allow breeders which are not reputable to advertise - and I'd consult Citizens Advice re getting your money back.  You could threaten to take him to the small claims court.

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