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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / wee wee trouble im puzzled???
- By Romside [gb] Date 21.10.12 20:49 UTC
Ok you all know i have jazz now.an 18 week old spoodle....shes excellent in everyway accept,for some reason shes gone backwards with her weeing...im baffled...ive convinced myself they go backwards before they can go completely forwards but is this right?im only going by other pups ive had,including rescue dogs...its a good job we have real wood floor down because otherwise id be in a mess...

she was clean all day and all night for about 10 days from day dot (i got her at 16 weeks),and now its like watching an 8 week old puppy again she will just squat anywhere!
shes run upstairs on the landing followed me up,and wee'd i couldnt belive it!!That wasthe very first time and even the other half who would normally screw at me for not watching a puppy was gobsmacked!!
the following day on the kids bedroom floor she wee'd whilst i was tidying up,shes wee'd on my rug twice in the living room and in the kitchen on the floor countless times...she will NOW poo in the night as well and do two wees Im coming down at 4 and then at 6 and its inbetween she does it......ive taken her out inbetween,walked her round the block on the long line at 4:30am (shattered and feezing may i add lol)she'll do wee outside come back in and at 7:30 theres a wee and a poo.....im thinking of putting up the crete. :-(
i watch her all day (i groom from home) the back door isnt open now so i have to,and she wont indicate she needs to go...she just squats! no sniffing she'll just be walking along and crouch.
Any ideas???
- By arched [gb] Date 22.10.12 08:27 UTC
Are you sure she doesn't indicate when she wants to go ?. I've always kept to the three obvious times - after eating, after playing and after sleep.
Is the room she sleeps in warm enough ?. You say it's freezing outside, so if her bed isn't warm she'll find it hard to have a deep and peaceful sleep.
My dog was 16 weeks when I got him, he's now 10 and has yet to have an accident - ever. It wasn't down to luck, it was down to being there and praising loads. I've no doubt things may change as he ages but he's been wonderful.
Please don't use a crate, I know lots use them but I think they are totally unnecessary and in your dogs case might seem like punishment.
- By cracar [gb] Date 22.10.12 09:32 UTC
Far too much freedom for an 18 week old puppy(even if she is your baby!!lol).  Back to basics with treats to get it right again and give her some boundaries.  Until pups are 100%, they are resticted to 2 rooms in our house(kitchen and livingroom) and a crate if I'm not watching or out.  I am really tough about housetraining and usually get it drummed in during the first week.
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 22.10.12 10:45 UTC
I have to agree with the too much freedom[she shouldn't be climbing stairs till at least 6 months old or descending till 12 months old], she is too far from the door to learn to indicate she needs to go and therefore just does it when she gets the urge.

Now that it is cooler it will be harder for her to hold on or she may have picked up a UTI, if she continues with this behaviour then take a sample to the vets for testing,a simple dipstick will indicate protein present which may be due to infection.

When I have pups I am either watching them closely or they are confined to a puppy pen when I need to go out or do something they can't be with me. I blame myself for any accidents as I have been lax in my observation of them, as soon as they stop what they are doing I take them outside, usually hourly at first or less, I keep a diary of how soon after eating and drinking they need to perform so they are taken out on time, if they don't perform when taken out then they are confined to the kitchen with me pottering about and watching them and taken out every 10-15 minutes till they do, you then know that you have some time to do some training etc. where they can concentrate and not be thinking of the next toilet break.

Hopefully by going back to basics for a few more weeks she will get things right for the rest of her life.
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 22.10.12 10:45 UTC
Perhaps she doesnt indicate the need to go outside because she doesnt know she needs to .  IMO leaving the back door open isnt enough. you need to physically take her out, encourage her to go and give massive praise when she has been. After meals and regularly throughout the day. At this stage i wouldnt allow her the run of the house. Perhaps a crate would give her more warmth and security which in turn could result in less 'accidents'
- By rabid [gb] Date 22.10.12 11:39 UTC
It doesn't sound like you've toilet TRAINED her.  To TRAIN her, you needed to be giving her treats for going in the right place (outdoors) immediately after she toileted.  If you didn't provide her with treats during those 10 days when she was toileting where you wanted, then you weren't reinforcing it and she is no more likely to continue going there than she is to go anywhere else. In her eyes all places are equal.  You need to make some places more rewarding than others to toilet.  Which means giving treats after toileting there.
- By Nikita [gb] Date 22.10.12 11:43 UTC
If the back door has been open then to date, she won't have needed to indicate as such - she could just go when she needed to.  You need to go back and start again, take her out regularly and go out with her.  I have to do this with my lab - she is anything but housetrained as she also does not ask to go out, she just goes in the kitchen (and frankly, she's too thick to learn how to ask, it's taken me 2.5 years just to get her going when I need her to!).  When she first arrived in 2010 I had a dog flap in so she just went whenever.  So I have to be constantly aware of how long it's been since she went last now, even overnight.

I also had to do a bit of remedial housetraining when I first moved in as my first two dogs had had a dog flap for 3 years - they again had just gone out when they needed to so when faced with a closed door, housetraining did slip.
- By Romside [gb] Date 22.10.12 12:20 UTC
Too much freedom ,i know :-( i hang my head i know...

going up n down stairs i dont usually have at all with pups but i sort of just allowed her...im getting soft..
i will go back to treating her at wee wee times thanks...ive just expected too much of a young baby thanks.xx
will be putting a crete up as iv always used them but didnt with her as she was so good to start with...
- By cracar [gb] Date 22.10.12 16:28 UTC
Hehehehe!! Ur last post made me giggle!!!
You are hopelessly in love with Jazz and she is ruling the roost allready.  I LOVE IT!!!lol
- By Romside [gb] Date 22.10.12 18:23 UTC

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">You are hopelessly in love with Jazz


^^you have no idea^^

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">she is ruling the roost allready


^^what pup that youve waited for,for many years dont eh?^^

Shes gorgeous and the rug is just a flippin rug,hubby can be replaced right??LOL
- By Romside [gb] Date 03.11.12 11:26 UTC
Ok *****update*****

not that she wasnt before (im sure u understand) but shes gone back to being the fabulous little (ish lol) puppy she was before.we did midnight wee breaks and creted her so now she is just wonderful as wonderful can be again...

We have a new problem now,my eldest rott loves a crete and so jazz has to sleep in bellas bed in the day(unless we go out) so bella can have a sneak into the puppy bed lol...its working out fine its not realy a problem ....well only when you got jazz on top of bella in the cage and the two toys tucked under her belly bless her its soo  cute to see them all cuddled up...if bella didnt like it she'd certainly make her feelings clear so im sure shes happy..

happy happy house..
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 03.11.12 17:19 UTC
Don't worry about bed/crate sharing, 5 adult dachsies would regularly climb into a 24"x18" crate together,as long as their noses were free to breathe there wasn't a problem and they had a similar size bed that got the same, Lois [nearly a year since she passed away suddenly] preferred to be on the bottom and would climb over everyone till she reached the right spot and then wriggle till she reached the desired level in the pile.
- By Romside [gb] Date 07.11.12 20:59 UTC
Ahhhhh,this is so cute to read lol
they love eachother!
- By judgedredd [gb] Date 07.11.12 21:43 UTC
one rottie trying to get into a cage , could not fit in it so he backed into it and lay down with his butt in the cage body hanging out, 3 spitz ,one pug, all pile in on top of him and we have to turn the tv up because they all decide to snore
the same in the beds lots of beds and they all pile onto the same one and just lie with all their noses poking outwards normally ontop of the same rottie he has a rough life bless him
- By Romside [gb] Date 07.11.12 21:53 UTC
rottie he has a rough life bless him

I dont think they see it that way tho....troy and bella both rotts and if bella is being moody theyll lay on troy,but i swear they prefer bella cos theyll all pile on her first!
AND you mentioned a rotts backing into the cage too small,my spoodle done this just the other day but shes tall now and got stuck!!! she squeezed into a toy poodle cage....
ive seen bella with just her headin the toys cage!!!!
- By Romside [gb] Date 07.11.12 21:53 UTC
maybe just my dogs are wrongens lol
- By judgedredd [gb] Date 08.11.12 06:54 UTC
my family say that all my dogs are nuts, i just think they are normal but when you tell people of things that they have done they are laughing and thinking it is so funny,but i would rather have them mad than sad
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.11.12 09:02 UTC
Romside, I know when you write spoodle you mean STANDARD POODLE, but spoodle is the name often given to Schnauzer x Poodles, and I do a double take every time I see it.

I keep giggling to myself as I can see people googling for this cross finding your posts and getting pretty confused, LOL :)

perhaps s.poodle??  would make it clearer.
- By Romside [gb] Date 08.11.12 14:23 UTC
oh dear im so sorry i didnt think!!!!
WHOOPS no shes definatly a standard poodle
- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 15.11.12 16:48 UTC
I thought you meant springer x poodle and was puzzled why you had been waiting for a long time to have one as they haven't been around that long! lol!! Now i understand. :-)
- By Romside [gb] Date 17.11.12 10:59 UTC

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">and was puzzled why you had been waiting for a long time to have one as they haven't been around that long! lol!! Now i understand. :-)


lol
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