Today i went on a group walk to the forest with a few friends.one of my boys was neutered on the 28th sept and about 10 minutes in to the walk i was horrified to find my neutered dog in a tie with one of the other ladies dogs,she said she had no idea her dog was in season which i find hard to believe but my question is will her girl definately not get pregnant because one of the other dog owners said that because he only got neutered 2 and half weeks ago it might still happen,would this woman need to take her dog to the vet? it seems my boy doesnt realise he is not entire anymore!

Yes it is still possible, and in fact there is a proven case of a dog siring a litter months after neutering.

I think I would advise her to get the Alizin jab, rather than risk your boy not being fertile.  The chances of him impregnating a bitch are too high.

a neutered male can still tie with a bitch in season ,i have one male that does not bother he seems to know that his bits are gone, but i have another male that will try it on all the time with my bitches in season so he is watched like a hawk, i know that after 4 years of being neutered he will not produce anything, but saying as your boy has just been done you should either contact a vet and ask, or get the bitches owner to get her bitch done with the injection just incase.

Yes, that recent a neuter could well still be fertile, I'd tell her to get the injection in case.

the lady who owns the female dog called her vet and told her there is no way her girl will be pregnant.I told her to google it because ive read quite a few stories where it has actually happened but she says thats all they are,just stories and she isnt taking her girl to the vet.Id feel so much happier if she did,does anyone know anyone personally this has happened to so i can show her?thanks

The instance I refer to was posted by a poster from personal experience, but it was a few years ago and I don't see them posting these days, I think it might have been Sam, who has bloodhounds.

Nearly all the links I found by googling refered to fertility being likely for 4 - 6 weeks.

The instance I refer to was posted by a poster from personal experience, but it was a few years ago and I don't see them posting these days, I think it might have been Sam, who has bloodhounds.

Nearly all the links I found by googling referred to fertility being likely for 4 - 6 weeks.

Certainly with men they are asked to take care for that length of time, and to ejaculate as frequently as they can to clear the remaining sperm, our dogs would not do this (unless they are prone to masturbating to full extent).

I would think canine sperm is at least as long lived as human.

A compromise might be for the lady to have her bitch scanned 35 days post mating, and if found to be pregnant then Alizin could be administered then.

> vet and told her there is no way her girl will be pregnant.

Well how irresponsible for the vet to say that....I would get the bitch injected now if it were mine!

My vet told me that my boy would still have the urge and be fertile for some time, he was neutered about 7 years ago. There is not much you can do if the vet is giving such reckless advice, I would also suggest that the lady with the bitch should take a more responsible approach when her girl is in season :(

I know,i wish she did too because i didnt intend for my boy to sire pups hence the reason he was neutered,even if there is a tiny chance i wouldnt take the risk if she were mine!

I trust the vet will be giving her free medical care should she turn out to be pregnant and anything goes wrong then.... :-(

Sounds like she's hoping her girl will be sorry to say.  Very silly of her taking the dog out.

Maybe an idea to say that if she has pups a stud fee will be payable......

Nellygal, are you in the USA?
Just wonder if perhaps Alizin isn't available there, or is less used, maybe even called something different, or the vet simply hadn't an idea it was available. I'm very surprised the vet thinks the bitch can't be pregnant - it's entirely possible so soon after castration, not just in dogs but in all animals from rats, rabbits, cats and as someone has already said - human beans!

no im in the uk.I called my own vet and she said too that it was possible.My dog is a different breed from the ladies dog.The shocking thing is that there was an entire dog present on the walk too.i had female dogs when i was younger and cant understand how someone does not know their dog is in season,she said this was the first time she hadnt noticed.Im going to callmy friend tommorrow( who is friends with this lady) to try and convince her to take her dog to the vet,my vet is willing to speak to her.

no im in the uk.I called my own vet and she said too that it was possible.My dog is a different breed from the ladies dog.The shocking thing is that there was an entire dog present on the walk too.i had female dogs when i was younger and cant understand how someone does not know their dog is in season,she said this was the first time she hadnt noticed.Im going to callmy friend tommorrow( who is friends with this lady) to try and convince her to take her dog to the vet,my vet is willing to speak to her.

> no im in the uk

So sorry!
I clicked on your name and profile said you were in the USA.
Apparently when I log in on my phone I am in Kuwait... have never been there... so there ya go.

As to the bitch in season, there's a huge gulf of ignorance out there. Many people seem to think that once the bitch has stopped bleeding she's over it and finished

I guess I was lucky that our first family dog was a bitch (albeit from a puppy farm in Wales, but my parents knew no better in the early 60's). She wasn't spayed but I somehow learned about her seasons and took it on board. [Hmmm... I have to say when my mother sat me down for 'That' talk when I was 11 or 12, using our dog's seasons to compare to what I would expect in future, completely horrified me!].

Some bitches can have blind seasons, when there is hardly any blood at all and it is v difficult to tell.  This can happen even in a bitch who usually has normal seasons.  It's pretty unusual though.

>when my mother sat me down for 'That' talk when I was 11 or 12, using our dog's seasons to compare to what I would expect in future, completely horrified me!].

Well, at least they only have them on average twice a year!

May be she didn't even call her Vet and is just telling you she did as I cannot believe ANY Vet would be so irresponsible. As someone else has said, wonder if he is going to give free advice (and treatment) if she is pregnant!

The shocking thing is that there was an entire dog present on the walk too

My neutered male is much more interested in bitches in season than my entire male.

I had a GSD once who  was castrated at 6 months due to appaling hips and the fact that he lived with numerous unspayed females (Many years ago ) I just did not want to take the risk of him fathering an unplanned litter and 30 years ago injections to stop pregnancy were poor if available at all. He was always the first to let me know the girls were in season and could mate and tie so fast it was untrue... twice he caught me out when I took my eyes off him for 2 seconds! Little so and so! The girls seemed to love him and would readily stand for him at the drop of a hat (Usually while I was picking the hat up !!)

I think there is a more than slim chance of siring a litter and as others have said the vet is giving the worng advice to your friend. As we all know cross bred litters are (for some reason) easily produced but not so easily homed.
Aileen

Well it will be interesting to hear what happens, so let us know if she is pregnant or not!