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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Diarrhoea again
- By Graciemay [gb] Date 26.09.12 15:22 UTC
Well she's 3.5 monthss old and got a typical case of the diarrhea,  shes not as lively as normal and all she's had to eat is some r/c sensitive meat today just little bits.  She's very keen to eat so vet suggested ti starve her for 12 hours see if that helps.  Anyone got any tried and tested remedies I could try or suggestions.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 26.09.12 15:30 UTC
If  it is just diarhorrea and not vomiting I would not starve at 3 1/2 months but give a couple of small meals of white fish or boiled chicken and plain mashed potatoes. I understand pumpkin is good for it but have never used it, you can get tinned pumpkin though and I have thought of getting some in. Try that for a couple of days then give a little more and gradually re-introduce her normal food.
Aileen
- By ridgielover Date 26.09.12 15:35 UTC
Diarsanyl is a really useful product to have in your doggy cupboard for a dog with a runny tummy but otherwise fit and well. I wouldn't use it if a dog seemed at all unwell but it's great for a runny tummy caused by eating something they shouldn't :)
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 26.09.12 17:29 UTC
IF you can find tinned pumpkin be careful as it tends to be pie filling and has spices added, that is why with Halloween just around  the corner I get a fresh pumpkin, steam,mash and freeze in icecube trays, transfer into freezer bags and store at the bottom of the freezer. One cube[approx dessert spoonful] usually sorts things out, never given more two 8-12hrs apart.

I have been told butternut squash works just as well but you don't get as much to save for later.

Also works for constipation.
- By Dill [gb] Date 26.09.12 19:32 UTC
If just a runny bum and no sickness, I give some Bio Yoghurt, just a spoonful on meals, this usually works quickly.

If chronic, I'd add the yoghurt and some cooked mashed sweet potato which works like the pumpkin, but easier to source.

Many pups get dire rear, mainly from munching on stuff they shouldn't in the garden :-)
- By darwinawards Date 26.09.12 19:48 UTC
Butternut squash works as well as Pumpkin, prepared in the same way described and in the same quantity.

Works every time for me, only use however when you are happy there is nothing potentially underlying causing the problem.
- By rabid [gb] Date 27.09.12 08:33 UTC
I also would not starve her.  Vets always give this advice and I've never seen it have any effect apart from cause the dog more suffering from the hunger pains!  If the dog has a bacterial infection (giardia, coccydiosis - or however you spell it!), then it will still be there once you've starved her.  And if the dog doesn't have a bacterial reason for it, and has, say, eaten something icky which has upset her stomach, then pooing it out is the best option and only time (and poop) will help.  Can't see starving helping in that case either. 

Several smaller meals through the day are a good idea.  You can also give some doggy kaolin.  And make sure she is up to date on worming with a full spectrum wormer, since worms can cause the runs.  But ultimately if there is a bacterial reason for it, only antibiotics will help and nothing you can give or do. 
- By Roxylola [gb] Date 27.09.12 08:48 UTC
I starved on my vets advice as everything was going through her.  I questioned it with the vet and she said it was because as her stomach is irritated anyway everytime food is going in it irritates it further which was making it worse.  Starving for 12 hours did seem to settle her digestion down followed by the introduction of small easy to digest meals (fish in her case as chicken & rice did not agree with her)
- By rabid [gb] Date 27.09.12 09:14 UTC
But the thing is that most cases of the runs settle down within 24 hrs if they're not bacterial, anyway - whether you starve or not.  I know this because I don't do it.  So it becomes one of these self-reinforcing things - you do it, it seems to get better, and you attribute it getting better to the fact that you did it.  So you do it again next time.  And so on.  When they it would probably have gotten better anyway, even without starving.
- By Graciemay [gb] Date 27.09.12 09:17 UTC
Well we got worse but I've crossed my fingers that she's over the worst.  I'm giving her little and often of sensitive meat so will know more as the day goes on.  I will now make sure I have runny bum med in just in case my Halloween pumpkin is going to come in very handy this year as well.
- By Pedlee Date 27.09.12 09:33 UTC
It may be worth adding slippery elm - tree barks powder, as it will help sooth an irritated gut.
- By Roxylola [gb] Date 27.09.12 11:23 UTC
My pup had gone on for over 24 hours and was not gettting better by itself no matter what I was feeding.  Sometimes the advice vets give is correct.  And ultimately if there was any comeback as a result of this or an insurance claim etc I would hate to think that by me having ignored the advice I was given I might end up being faced with a bill insurance won't pay or worse vets who won't treat my dog.

Hope your girl is better soon Graciemay
- By Trialist Date 27.09.12 15:19 UTC
Has the vet given her a clean bill of health ... other than a runny rear end? My vets normally prescribe little pink tablets that I'd like shares in, strom something or orther! Whatever they are, they usually dry anything up rapidly ;-)

As someone else has mentioned, pumpkin/butternut squash is a good stomach neutraliser (ie good for runs or constipation), just boil it up and give a teaspoon on her meal. I have to admit I use it 'cause I know my dogs like it ... I've never found it stop diarrhea :-(

I don't tend to give the usual 'chicken and rice'. For a start I have one dog intolerant to both and I was told by vet once upon a time, that most dog food is so bland nowadays, just feed small portions (as has already been suggested) of normal kibble, soaked. Plus if it's a food different to the norm, when they have a dodgy tum probably isn't the best of times to be introducing something different - unless you know for absolutely sure your dog is ok with both.

I've recently added Kaogel VP to my first aid kit, on recommendation of one of my pup owners (a vet) ... it's worked a treat. BUT I have no idea if it's ok for a young pup, can't see why not but might be one to run by your own vet first. There are probiotic pastes the vets churn out (can also buy online) - Cannikur & Pro-kaolin - I know people who find those helpful ... beware - contain soya as a binder. OK so long as you know your dog is fine with soya, hugely expensive if vet prescribes it after 6 weeks of expensive antibiotics that 'did the job' only for stupid paste to start the problem off again :-(

I hope you get her sorted, but am sure it'll clear quickly if vet has not prescribed anything, just make sure she's drinking plenty of fluids. If you're worried she might become dehydrated, a super recipe for an electrolyte is: in 1 pint water add 1 teaspoon salt + 1 tablespoon honey or glucose. Oh the joys of having a youngster in the house :-D

Talking of halloween pumpkin ... get a couple, boil them up and freeze it in ice cube trays - perfect size for a runny bum remedy ... if it works for that, otherwise as a nice tasty topper :-)
- By MJR1 [nl] Date 27.09.12 15:33 UTC
Everyone else has given some really good advice and there isn't much else I can add. 

I know from first hand experience how distressing it is to see a pup go through upset tums all the time.  I have a dog who has a really delicate stomach because of a bad start in life.  Problems started after she was first vaccinated and anything and everything now sets her off.  Please if she continues to have problems have a stool sample checked at the vets as my girl had a really nasty bacterial infection that needed very specific medication to clear it up. 

When she has a flare up now I just switch to plain mashed potato for a couple of days which seems to settle her down.  I do add a little pumpkin in from time to time which does help as long as you don't put too much in (Waitrose is the only place that I have found to buy it - Libbys 100% natural pumpkin) I divide the can up into small pots and put it in the freezer and just get some out when I need it.  Pro-Kolin works well too but buy it online as the vets charge a fortune for it.

Best of luck.
- By Graciemay [gb] Date 27.09.12 17:49 UTC
She's a lot better now although not much coming out at the min but going on how much she's done there can't possible be anything left bless her.  She's so much happier today and desperate to eat but just gave her little and often. Thanks all so much for your advice it's helped so much and I'm building a doggie meds box and the recipe for dehydration is certainly worth knowing as that was my main worry at one point.
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