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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / breeding after a c section....
- By pixiepuppy [gb] Date 10.09.12 16:59 UTC Edited 10.09.12 17:49 UTC
Hi. I'm not wanting to receive criticism posting on here merely bonafide advice please :)
My four year old girl had her second litter by c section as one of her pups had died inside and she was not progressing in labour. She produced 7 healthy pups and was absolutely fine with no adverse effects.Her first litter were born naturally and all went well.Six months on and believing her current season was over my sister who owns the stud dog and i went for a walk by the reservoir. The dogs were running and playing and cantered off ahead whereupon 5 mins later when we caught up with them they were tied and mating which was a huge surprise as there had been no sign of intent prior to this. My worry is that my girl had a c section and if she goes on to produce a litter of pups (who will be pedigree) will her uterus be able to cope after such a short period of time since the last litter? I'm not wanting a lecture merely wanted the opinons and experiences from other members. In an ideal world this is not what I wanted but i'm reluctant to give her hormones to prevent the pregnancy as i did want to re mate her on the following season 1 year after the last litter. Some people suggest mating them next season anyway to prevent the risk of adhesions /complications which can occur when scar tissue forms...there seems to be a good deal of conflicting information on the internet..any sound genuine advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:08 UTC
I would not allow her to have this litter, and get the Alizin injection.  Nothing to prevent you mating her on the following season after having this.

It is not really enough time for he body to recover from a normal birth and rearing let alone a C section.

See no reason why she could not be bred from 12 - 18 months after the section.
- By Goldmali Date 10.09.12 17:10 UTC
Personally I would inject her with Alizin -there is absolutely no problem at all to have a litter the season after you've aborted a litter with Alizin, I've done it myself and got 9 healthy pups that are doing extremely well in the ring. I would not wish a litter just 6 months after a previous large one on any bitch, regardless of whether she'd had a section or not. It's just too soon. Fair enough if the previous litter had consisted of just one or two pups, but when it was 7 I would never even consider it.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:16 UTC
I agree with Brainless, it is too soon for her to have another litter and she needs to recover, she has nursed 7 babies and that takes a lot out of her. No reason at all why she should not be left to recover properly and have a litter next season.
Accidents can happen to us all but you need to be fair now and get her jabbed.
Aileen
- By pixiepuppy [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:34 UTC
thank you.. good advice
- By pixiepuppy [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:35 UTC
thank you also
- By pixiepuppy [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:35 UTC
Fair point..thank you
- By pixiepuppy [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:36 UTC
thank you aileen....
- By newyork [gb] Date 10.09.12 17:45 UTC
I had a situation much like yours except that I didn't know my bitch had been mated. (Long story) Only reaslised she was pregnant when she started showing at about 6 weeks. Too late to do anything so let her have the litter. Unfortunately she managed to give birth to one puppy and then needed a c section for the others. The section was difficult, one of the puppies died and the vet said he had trouble keeping mum breathing. She then went on to get pyometra on her next reason and had to be spayed.
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 10.09.12 20:35 UTC
I would certainly take her to the vet after you are sure the season is finished and get the course of 2 injections, you can then keep to your original plans for her next litter.
- By rabid [gb] Date 10.09.12 22:46 UTC
Will the KC even register litters born this close together?
- By JeanSW Date 10.09.12 23:04 UTC

>Will the KC even register litters born this close together?


I have a breed that is mated relatively young - at the second season.  Bear in mind that I have my bitches spayed by 4 years old.  Average litter size is 1-3 pups.

One of my bitches had a litter at the end of January one year.  Her next season was less than 6 months interval (not mated.)  At her next season, again earlier than expected, she was mated, and whelped the second week in January.  So, not quite the full year between litters.  The Kennel Club did not question the registration.  However, I don't know if they would have queried this if it was something that happened frequently.

The bitch concerned had 2 pups each time, and was most definitely fit to have a second litter.  It may well be a different kettle of fish with a breed that would be mated at 2-3 years old, and breeding past the 4 years that I consider to be too old for my breed.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.09.12 23:08 UTC Edited 10.09.12 23:12 UTC
Yes, as long as the breeder is not required to have a breeding licence where under the Breeding and Sale of Dogs Welfare Act, a 12 months must elapse between litters (another law that isn't enforced by Local Authorities on puppy farmers, along with the requirement to document and identify all puppies to their breeding and the breeder).
- By newyork [gb] Date 11.09.12 04:20 UTC

> Will the KC even register litters born this close together?


yes they registered my pups from my back to back  litter without question :(
As there was only 1 possible father I decided to submit my registration expecting to be refused as there was only 7 months between litters but the KC didn't question the registration at all
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 11.09.12 08:02 UTC
I think I read that AB's have to have 12 months between, surely a week or two out must be allowed, it is obvious that it isn't a back to back mating.

When you look at the BRS and check when the previous litter was many are just under the 12 months, you would have to delay a further 6 months or more if the pups were going to fall within a year.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / breeding after a c section....

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