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By LJS
Date 09.07.12 13:12 UTC

Anybody knowing about these as presume they are a non standard colour and are being bred as a 'rare' colour ?

Getting more common and there is a breed club that does seem to be on the level (just my impression from their website). I SO want one and had the offer just recently but sadly the timing was all wrong for me. Have seen quite a few in agility and similar, think they are popular with people competing in various dog sports as they are attractive but yes the colour is not desirable. They are accepted for showing in certain countries so you can see them abroad being shown.
By LJS
Date 09.07.12 13:35 UTC

I came across them as a well known puppy farm at now breeding F1 Parti labradoodles.
They don't really float my boat to be honest.

Gosh can imagine they'd be wanted for that. :( To be honest I find them so attractive I am even dreaming about them at night!
By LJS
Date 09.07.12 14:01 UTC

I was quite surprised that they say that they can even be spotty
By Lea
Date 09.07.12 14:11 UTC

Ooooooohhhhh actually I like the look of them better than a Solid (sorry if I upset anyone saying that!!!!)
Is this another contender along with the IWS Lucy???
And Marianne :o :o Dreaming of them LMAO
Lea :) :)

I have a well respected st poodle show breeder friend (she bred one of my poodles some years ago) who currently owns one. She is stunning, but I know a lot of the show fraternity still frown upon parti poodles. I hope this changes. I also hope that puppy farmer types don't get their hands on them as they are vulnerable to exploitation.

I had a choice between the Ripley granddaughter that isn't even born yet, or a black and white toy Poodle -agonised for weeks about it!! Just couldn't have two pups! Have wanted a Poodle since I was 2!!!!! (Wanted a Papillon since then as well, took 37 years before that happened LOL.)
By LJS
Date 09.07.12 14:40 UTC

I gosh no Lea I was just doing some research and checking up in a few puppy farmers and saw this well known puppy farm has I think three Parti Stud dogs to add to their already large stud dog and brood bitch numbers :-(
By PDAE
Date 09.07.12 15:53 UTC
You can have a spanish instead LOL! Recently had a litter and two little white and black boys appeared, a colour that I've not personally bred for 18 years!! Was quite nice having two pups their great, great grandma's colour. Was quite a shock with mum being brown and white and dad black!
By LJS
Date 09.07.12 16:17 UTC
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I had thought about SWD as there do seem to be alot more diverse colours but again lovely dogs but not for me !

Seen a few and they vary from.....Stunning - very clear sharp colour edges........to......... What on earth is it - black blurring to grey blurring to white(ish)
By LJS
Date 09.07.12 16:27 UTC

Yes the description on the labradoodles was they could come out any colour and combination and also spotty so seemed like pot luck. Some of the specimens looked a right shambles of colours and different coats
I see one being shown regularly in the East Anglia open shows, I too love them and would love one for grooming. But, my OH doesn't like Poodles. :c
By JeanSW
Date 09.07.12 21:17 UTC
> I SO want one and had the offer just recently but sadly the timing was all wrong for me.
Oh Marianne, how could you!!!!! As I've kept Toy Poodles since the 70's and I am now poodle-less, I should have had the pup!
I love obedience with Poodles, they are great at it. And, although I'm not a big TV person, so can't name the advert, I have seen a lovely particolour on TV. They are very, very eye catching.
By labs
Date 09.07.12 21:21 UTC

One day in the future I would love a standard poodle to train as a gundog and I would so much love to have a parti.
interesting how lots of people here like the parti poodles but decry people breeding other dogs in non-standard colours. Or is it just the ones advertised as "rare"?
Oh Marianne, how could you!!!!! As I've kept Toy Poodles since the 70's and I am now poodle-less, I should have had the pup! LOL! I was gutted it came at the EXACT same time that I had the opportunity to get a Malinois pup from a mating I have wanted for years -I just can't take on two pups needing to be trained.... But oh I still dream about Poodles at night, in fact my husband is getting exasperated with me as I wake up and tell him I've dreamed of Poodles again!!
By Lea
Date 10.07.12 07:50 UTC
>interesting how lots of people here like the parti poodles but decry people breeding other dogs in non-standard colours. Or is it just the ones advertised as "rare"?
I think its as they are shown abroad thats the difference :)
Its a shame that the puppy farmers have obviously got hold of them as LJS has said :( :(
I must admit I do like them, not as much as Marianne though!!!
Lea :)
interesting how lots of people here like the parti poodles but decry people breeding other dogs in non-standard colours. Or is it just the ones advertised as "rare"?This is my problem, we've always had poodles, and I've done showing many years ago. It was always instilled in me that breed standard colours were correct and any white markings, phantom colours, black/tan were undesirable so were pale noses and poor confirmation. I found it hard to like parti poodles simply because it went against all I had been taught. I've a friend in USA with one and at first I was rather snobbish in my outlook, but had seen past his colour and he's no different to any standard she or I have had before. It's just difficult accepting them, I know that sounds awful but I just can't help it. I know they are going to be the next 'big thing' here as people seem to like something different, but unless they are bred by dedicated show people (who are generally horrified, they've spent years breeding out the lines that produced them) they'll be breed by PF and BYB who haven't a clue what they're doing and are in it for the money.
I love all poodles, and I am sure if I had one it would be no different, but it's hard to break old habits :(
It's just difficult accepting them, I know that sounds awful but I just can't help it. I know they are going to be the next 'big thing' here as people seem to like something different, but unless they are bred by dedicated show people (who are generally horrified, they've spent years breeding out the lines that produced them) they'll be breed by PF and BYB who haven't a clue what they're doing and are in it for the money. I can understand that -and after all, OUR breed standard says it is highly undesirable and should be heavily penalised. I would no doubt feel the same if I was already involved in the breed. But I do get the impression that there IS a breed club that is serious. Sure there will be BYBs etc as in all breeds, but I think (just my impression) that here is something that at least stands a chance as not everyone involved is just for money. Googling pups they don't seem to be going for silly prices.
http://www.thepartipoodleclub.co.uk/index.htmlI remember seeing one in one of the dog papers, last year or so, photo taken at a show abroad.
By LJS
Date 10.07.12 11:12 UTC

Parti Labradoodles are going for twice the price :-(
By marisa
Date 10.07.12 12:48 UTC
To me, they are definitely more eye catching than your usual Poodle but perhaps that is because they are more like collie markings to me lol.

The thing is they are recognised in other countries. Colours linked to health issues are also not supported by responsible people, so this includes dilutes in some short coated breeds associated with poor coat and skin issues.
Also Parti's in Poodles have always been around, unlike some colours not natural to a breed but brought in through misalliance, like probably in blue Weims, and are rather attractive if well marked, just like the Boston marked Great Danes, perfectly showable but considered an over marked/mismarked Harli here.
>there is a breed club that does seem to be on the level (just my impression from their website)
It does seem respectable, and I was pleased to read that their code of ethics forbids the use of members dogs for crossbreeding. :-)

Bit off topic here, but the FCI standard for Malinois only allows for Fawn. The AKC standard only allows for RICH Fawn to red, pale colour to be penalised. But the UK breed standard allows for Fawn, Red or GREY -making us, I think, the only country to allow grey. I'm sure our greys (not that there are many, I only know of 3 still alive at the moment -although they do crop up in other countries from time to time) if seen in the show ring would be considered as having a really bad colour fault by foreign judges and breeders.
Just goes to show how standards can vary from country to country, and what is a fault in one is not always in another.

I've had a look at the parti poodles and I don't understand the big fuss! :( Give me an all-black poodle anyday :) That being said, I'm not a HUGE fan of either really, except when they don't have a clipped nose!
By PDAE
Date 10.07.12 15:20 UTC
This is a subject at the moment on my breed on FB! White and blacks have to have proper patches and speckled/dotted isn't acceptable, though dogs have won abroad with the dotted speckled markings and others have been thrown out.
i can see parti colours being the next big thing and lots of dodgy 'breeders' are going to jump on the bandwagon selling parti pups at ridiculously prices. once again we are ging down the 'doodle route...
Dogs being bred on looks and selling something that looks cute with little thought going into the importance of good lines and temprement etc :-(

At least parti poodles are poodles and not oodles.
By LJS
Date 10.07.12 20:06 UTC

Yes that is a definate plus point JG.

Freds Mum did you look at the breed club link?

I think they are lovely, and that's coming from someone who has never been much attracted to poodles. The white pattern just gives them the edge for me... I could live with one.
By JeanSW
Date 10.07.12 22:29 UTC
>did you look at the breed club link?
Have to be honest, I couldn't resist. And was well impressed. It is something that I would give serious consideration to. I have always loved the intelligence of the breed.
And, should I take the plunge, it would not matter a jot that some people don't like them! Because the dog would be mine ALL MINE! :-)
I wouldn't want one to be used for breeding, so restrictions would not bother me. And I have kept both sexes, so it wouldn't even matter to me what sex was available.

The ones a lady near me has, have lovely temperaments and she does Obedience with them.
By inka
Date 11.07.12 09:56 UTC
oh gosh, i don't like them at all! Give me a solid white standard any day, they are simply magical to look at. Unfortunately a poodle is not in my future :(
> did you look at the breed club link?
Blaze lives in our village and I often see the Parti Club doing their stuff over the owners agility kit.
It's not the breed for me but I can well see why the parti colours appeal...
I like the look of parti-colours. They are not new and have been around for centuries but for some reason the colour was not allowed when the breed standard was written.
I have seen a black/white Standard Poodle with the markings of a Landseer Newfoundland - absolutely stunning!
By JeanSW
Date 12.07.12 18:54 UTC
>I have seen a black/white Standard Poodle with the markings of a Landseer Newfoundland - absolutely stunning!
OMG!
To die for! Want one, want one, want one. :-) :-)
Sounds stunning, I must say.
the point i was making was that i think the parti's could (potentially) be the net craze and i'd hate to see the wonderful breed of poodles go further down the road which is taking them away from their routes. A whole load of damage has been done already breeding them with quite frankly anything. i'm not denying they are gorgeous but i'd rather see them as a gorgeous mistake rather than someone going out to intentially breed them and cash in on it
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