In the past they have suffered badly from colitis with the associated rumbly stomach but since eating raw the rumbling/gurgling occurs most evenings. Out put is good but is gurgling a concern & do any of your dogs suffer from this, thank you?

> but is gurgling a concern & do any of your dogs suffer from this

Only time mine have done this is first thing in the morning when they are hungry :) :)

Think this is often due to fermentation or gut irritation and I think I would be making small adjustments to the food to try to overcome this, perhaps charcoal biscuits or perhaps just terrier meal would help.

Edit to say I meant terrier meal with his food not just terrier meal.

I despair at myself, sorry about the title I meant 'Gurgling'!.

Some vegetables in combination with meat can give mine a noisy stomach - but as I generally just give meat it's fairly unusual.  What meat/veg/grain combo are yours currently eating?

Do you feed your dogs just meat?

my dogs have no problem eating veg, it doesnt cause wind or rumbly tums, but some dogs do react to veggies.

my dogs have no problem eating veg

The eating of fruit, veg or indeed grass type plants should not cause a problem in the domestic dog as for the most part canines are omnivores  although lots of people seem to think them pure carnivore. In the wild they are opportunity feeders and will eat almost anything they can find and being dogs the easier it is to acquire food the better they like it, they may eat carrion one day and fruit or root the next although hunting in packs when necessary any easy to acquire food will be eaten no matter what it happens to be, one of mine seems to consider cardboard the basis of a good diet.

I have found over the years that a biscuit given first thing in the morning will counteract overnight excess acid and settle the stomach for the day.

Boxers are very gurgling-type dogs and it works for them and now my little ones too.

Moose the girl I lost before Christmas was a gurgler. She was fed the same time and food as the others and had a very stable tummy and hardly ever had any runny poos or sickness.

I just gave her a snack , biscuit or a banana and it normally stopped it.

Dogs a babe, thank you. They are fed forthglade, turkey, lamb, rabbit, tripe & occasionally fresh lights. I mix a small desert spoon of veg in with meat (fed twice a day) of either raw grated carrot, cabbage, spinach frozen or fresh & left over cooked potato, or peas.
Until they changed to Robbies some years ago they both suffered very badly from colitis & the move to raw is to see if I can now improve/help the elder with his skin/coat. I'm aware that his coat loss 50/60% could be due to neutering but the poor boys' underparts are almost bald & consequently get very clammy & red.

> they are opportunity feeders and will eat almost anything

Nova, thank you. As mentioned before scent hounds have a character of eating anything when out & about so grass, fruit & occasional carrion is eaten though the latter not encouraged! As they have always been grass eaters have naively thought that veg would be no problem? They occasionally get just meat but veg is added to most meals & yes mine also do not turn their noses up at cardboard.

> biscuit or a banana

They do get mixer biscuit as a treat (bribery)  during the day but trying to get them away from grains, will try banana or charcoal biscuits. Any other suggestions are welcome

Mine only get charcoal biscuits which are mainly used for pumpy bottoms :-)

I noticed this last night with Asbo
The only thing I can think that I've started to add into his diet is raw blended carrot (frozen before hand) He's been on raw meat/bone for the last 3 weeks and I just started to add carrot this week so I've stopped and will try again next week and see if it starts again!

I've been writing down on my calendar in the kitchen what he's been having each meal so I can trace any issues back! Previously my calendar was just there to check dates for best before on my food!
Now it's covered in scribles of
Am - chicken & tripe - poo ok
Pm - Beef & chicken wing - poo ok
Am - Lamb - poo ok
etc etc :) lol

> As they have always been grass eaters have naively thought that veg would be no problem

It probably isn't, and it might just be one or two veg that cause the issue...

I'd try a week of no veg to see if you notice a difference and then start adding it in smaller amounts to find a balance or combination that works better for them.  Perhaps you could group your veg into the higher sugar ones such as parsnip and carrot then the green ones to see which might be the issue.

A diary is a great idea.  Oh the things we do for our dogs :)

The only thing I can think that I've started to add into his diet is raw blended carrot (frozen before hand)

Why not give a whole fresh carrot, dogs love to crunch a carrot so why blend and freeze, sound horrid to me much better fresh and crunchy

Because the cellulose is indigestible; they come out in the same state as they went in! Raw whole carrots give entertainment but no nutrition.

Raw whole carrots give entertainment but no nutrition.

And how much value are frozen and blended I wonder, must say the sweetcorn goes straight through but I have not noticed carrot, but that would be called roughage I suppose. My cardboard eater has a passion for mushrooms, not something I would feed but he has chosen to grab one at any and every opportunity.

Freezing vegetables breaks the cell walls (think how soggy frozen-then-thawed strawberries become) so the vitamin content is accessible.

> Freezing vegetables breaks the cell walls ... so the vitamin content is accessible.

I agree with this. I always liquidise veggies/fruit first. Then freeze it in bun trays, simply so I don't have to do it every day. I do a batch that lasts us a week.

> Why not give a whole fresh carrot, dogs love to crunch a carrot

Mine looked at me as if I've given them a poo sandwich so i mixed the carrot in the meat

> Because the cellulose is indigestible; they come out in the same state as they went in! Raw whole carrots give entertainment but no nutrition.

Yes, carrot is great for crunching but unless grated or liquidised comes out as it goes in! Will try freezing and as suggested just feed meat for a few days, keeping a record & then slowly adding one veg at a time.